SpackleFrog
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Nah it's all about moving to an election footing.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Nah it's all about moving to an election footing.
Yup and you can already see on what ground they will fight the election.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Yeah fair, much the same though - will be framed as us or Corbyn
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
And Brexit or Remain. Which is possible now Corbyn has been pushed to support Remain. So Johnson can win the majority May wanted.
Supine
Newt Member
Nope. Labour policy at a GE is currently to fight for their own version of brexit. They are only remain against a conservative no deal. Confusing ehh!
SpackleFrog
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As far as most people are concerned (not you obviously you're not people) Labour is now a Remain party.
Supine
Newt Member
Come the next GE we will see what the labour campaign is based on. "People" can then decide if they are remain or leave. Constructive ambiguity hasn't worked so far and I don't imagine it'll be as possible when they present their GE manifesto.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Agree.
Supine
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not a trot
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If we are still in the EU at the next GE, then Farage and his bunch of twats will be a serious threat to both Tory and labour. I believe BoJo will do anything to avoid such a scenario. Brexit voters are not going to take anymore dithering on extentions etc. Corbyn needs to make it clear once and for all that, Labour are a remain party, and he needs to be doing that now.
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If we're not in the EU at the next GE, who will the Brexit party be a threat to?
SpackleFrog
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Brainaddict
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The moment we leave the EU, being a 'remain' party will be an outdated concept. And Johnson will do anything to make sure we've left by the time of the next election. So I suspect talking about 'remain' at the next election is meaningless. It will all be about next steps, whether we've left with a deal or without.
Supine
Newt Member
Of course leaving without a deal just means starting to make a deal on November 1st as a deal must happen eventually. We'll just have a weaker negotiating position if we are trying from the outside. The Irish border and customs checks will still be a thing. It'll just be another chapter in brexit.
I suspect BJ will fight a GE first and hope for a big enough majority to loose the DUP, so that Ireland can sort out it's own arrangements. Sea borders on the mainland will be ideal for the brexit crowd.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
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Raheem
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I don't think that's it. He will do anything to make sure he looks like he means it, but it won't be possible. So he will be fighting the election as Captain Brexit.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Again I agree. What's happening to me?
Your less than intelligent posts do nothing but explain why Brexit is being made easy for twat boris. Remain, while clearly the sensible move, has nobody to push what should be the best option for the UK - All we have is infighting and idiotic comments between groups that want to see the EU become what it should be, the start of a unified world.
It's fools like you that are allowing Brexit to move forward because you're clearly too daft to see remain needs a unified front and powerful speakers to show the public how foolish leaving the EU is.
Leave is packed full of xenophobic, racist twats that won't stop at Brexit, they'll take their idiocy as far as they can push it, and that's fucking bad news for the world.
Unite and get Brexit booted into whichever pit of hell fucking stupid ideas are dumped into.
Very probably, and boris the gob milked it for every approval point he could get in the commons.
Corbyn dithered and did nothing.
What's happening here is remain are assuming common sense will win the day, but it's more likely a fat gob and popularist comments are going to beat common sense into a pulp and allow Brexit to happen. Strong leaders with strong voices are commonly appealing to voters, and that means parliamentary support as those very voters voice their opinions to their MPs.
Remain needs a strong voice to push what should be obvious - The UK MUST remain in the EU.
It's getting late in the day so remain needs something right now. August is missing from the parliamentary calendar, so we have 60 days to get this idiocy stopped.
The question is, does remain have someone powerful enough to beat Johnson and show the public how stupid brexit is? I know one thing, it isn't Corbyn.
It might well but it's very probably accurate.
boris the gob is running round doing popular stuff all over the place, promising a load of new coppers on the street, loads of cash to boost local economies, the trans-Pennine rail link, and making sure the world knows he's being tough on Europe, exactly the sort of stuff I said he would do, and it's going to be popular because most people don't look past the ends of their noses. Toss in the tory party knows they're fucked as a political force if Brexit fails, and all the things needed for a brexit disaster are well and truly in place. All he really has to do is make sure the unionists are on his side by telling them there's no way the south will have any influence on NI politics as long as they support him.
He isn't home and dry, but he's making all the noises he needs to make in order to get his daft way.
Remain have Corbyn - there's just no comparison but there's going to have to be something quick because the gob's many promises are going to put a lot of pressure on MPs to go Brexit.
3 months to go, 2 in reality, and there's not a lot in the gob's way right now, less soon.
Corbyn reminds me of that donkey jacket wearing idiot of many years ago. A bright bloke but clueless and with the personality of a dead cat. Great for the fucking tories, but sod all use to Labour or remain.
Baronage-Phase
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Party political games and posturing.
That's what the people in the UK are paying for.
The ordinary people living in the UK are funding these arseholes who talk utter shite and want to punctuate more than protect your livelihoods and rights.
How long does it take to organise a revolution?
That's what the people in the UK are paying for.
The ordinary people living in the UK are funding these arseholes who talk utter shite and want to punctuate more than protect your livelihoods and rights.
How long does it take to organise a revolution?
Steel Icarus
we move
Three missed meals/thousands of years. Somewhere in between.
True, and it's something you aren't going to beat any time soon, especially when the politician in question is bloody good at games and posturing, and more so when his opposition in the house is a useless pillock without a clue.
As for revolution - Not for me, thanks, as they tend to finish with a lot of very ordinary people deader than they were before the shooting started.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
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How the middle classes find themselves up against the wall.
philosophical
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Common sense won't prevail.
It seems more likely anti English Irish terrorism will re-emerge, because brexit voters voted down the peace process.
Still red blood might work well on blue passports if the shade of blue is just right.
It seems more likely anti English Irish terrorism will re-emerge, because brexit voters voted down the peace process.
Still red blood might work well on blue passports if the shade of blue is just right.
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