Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[CRI]

Meanwhile . . . another suspicious package, this time in Glasgow, made safe in a controlled explosion.

Am I the only one old enough here to remember when this sort of thing wasn't a "novelty," and that sometimes resulted in quite a bit of damage and even . . . deaths?

Police say suspect packages linked

I'm sure someone will come along soon and say it's absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

Edit: Just to add, this incident is happening at the moment. May be unconnected of course.

Suspicious package found at bank closes Princes Street

A Police Scotland spokesman said: "Police in Edinburgh received a report of a suspicious package having been received at a business premises on Princes Street at around 12.30pm on Thursday, March 7.

"The building has been evacuated as a precaution and officers are in attendance to progress inquiries."

 

[CRI]

Yes, that's clearly what you should take from that post. You plum.

At my age, I look more like a prune!

 

[SpineyNorman]

At my age, I look more like a prune!

Nowt wrong with prunes, they keep you regular

 

[Wilf]

Meanwhile . . . another suspicious package, this time in Glasgow, made safe in a controlled explosion.

Am I the only one old enough here to remember when this sort of thing wasn't a "novelty," and that sometimes resulted in quite a bit of damage and even . . . deaths?

Police say suspect packages linked

I'm sure someone will come along soon and say it's absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

Okay, I'll dip a toe in: why do you think it is linked to Brexit?

 

[maomao]

Can one wave oneself?

 

[DotCommunist]

Can one wave oneself?

helicopter

 

[CRI]

Okay, I'll dip a toe in: why do you think it is linked to Brexit?

I'll push your toe back out. Why do you think it's not?

 

[Wilf]

I'll push your toe back out. Why do you think it's not?

You raised the possible connection. In your unwillingness to make your point you become positively Dexterish.

 

[Pickman's model]

OK so you want to keep it going.
You say I frequently have difficulty understanding things.
Like you're the judge.
If you don't see that as patronising and personal, I do.
You frequently use digs at me, invoking imaginary past misdeeds, and now saying I am something of a hypocrite, and that is not you returning to your enduring leitmotiv of putting me down presumaby as a way of comforting yourself that in some way you are superior?
What about your earlier complaint about the number of posts I make with the added dressing of the word 'only'.
My interest here is allied to the topic title, not to be fodder for your self aggrandizement.

you do have difficulty understanding things. if you understood things well you wouldn't have made a fuss about my use of 'deny'. and yes, i can judge whether you've understood something from the response you offer. if i had drawn and shared conclusions from that during this little exchange then yes, conclusions like 'philosophical is stupid' that could have been patronising and personal. i haven't said anything today about any 'misdeeds' you've done in the past - i wouldn't count misunderstanding something to be a misdeed. i'm sorry, i don't recall complaining about your use of only - please tell me the post number and i'll review it.

 

[Pickman's model]

You raised the possible connection. In your unwillingness to make your point you become positively Dexterish.

what, dexter 'i shagged my boss across the desk' dexter or just dextertcn?

sadly shaggy dexter a distant memory, with really only this left to remind us he passed this way

 

[Sprocket.]

what, dexter 'i shagged my boss across the desk' dexter or just dextertcn?

Dexterophonic?

 

[Pickman's model]

Dexterophonic?

dextastic

 

[philosophical]

you do have difficulty understanding things. if you understood things well you wouldn't have made a fuss about my use of 'deny'. and yes, i can judge whether you've understood something from the response you offer. if i had drawn and shared conclusions from that during this little exchange then yes, conclusions like 'philosophical is stupid' that could have been patronising and personal. i haven't said anything today about any 'misdeeds' you've done in the past - i wouldn't count misunderstanding something to be a misdeed. i'm sorry, i don't recall complaining about your use of only - please tell me the post number and i'll review it.

25123

 

[Wilf]

what, dexter 'i shagged my boss across the desk' dexter or just dextertcn?

sadly shaggy dexter a distant memory, with really only this left to remind us he passed this way

Some schools used to have an honours board for all the ex pupils who died in the war. Maybe urban needs its own honours board.

 

[Pickman's model]

i know you didn't use the word 'deny'. to no platform someone is to deny them a platform. if you don't understand that then there's scant hope for you. but given your posting history and your mischaracterisation of people throughout your sojourn here (and sojourn's another word you haven't used, btw) i've never really expected much from you. i expect we have many things we agree on. only you never talk about anything else other than your hobby horse - you've only submitted 56 posts which aren't on this thread. i'm not putting you on ignore.

philosophical there is no complaint about your use of only in this post
there is no complaint about the number of posts you've made in this thread
you had made at the time something like 821 posts in this thread and 56 in other threads. hence the use of only 56, not to complain about the number of posts you've made but to emphasise that the great majority of them have been in this thread. you've not discussed much else here than brexit and if you want to find common ground perhaps you should enter debates on other threads.

 

[Pickman's model]

Some schools used to have an honours board for all the ex pupils who died in the war. Maybe urban needs its own honours board.

a dishonours board

 

[philosophical]

philosophical there is no complaint about your use of only in this post
there is no complaint about the number of posts you've made in this thread
you had made at the time something like 821 posts in this thread and 56 in other threads. hence the use of only 56, not to complain about the number of posts you've made but to emphasise that the great majority of them have been in this thread. you've not discussed much else here than brexit and if you want to find common ground perhaps you should enter debates on other threads.

You misunderstand.

It is your use of the word only (we really are heads of a pin now) when you said 'you've only submitted 56 posts which aren't on this thread', as if the number of posts made is a measure of something, and 'only' signifying that that measure falls short.
A simple put down.

 

[CRI]

You raised the possible connection. In your unwillingness to make your point you become positively Dexterish.

Um, no. I cited 3 incidents over the past 48 hours where improvised explosive devices were found in England and Scotland, originating in Ireland and thought to be connected by the police. I can't recall anything similar happening for at least a decade, probably more. Funny it should be happening right now, dontcha think?

Rather a lot of politicians, academics, historians, and ordinary folks have suggested that the UK Government's failure to uphold its commitments in the Good Friday Agreement with regard to the Border just might run a risk of reopening violent conflict and/or cause serious hardship for Ireland, North and South.

Brexit Could Reawaken Northern Ireland’s Troubles - The Atlantic
Stark no-deal Brexit warning from NI Civil Service head
Northern Ireland must come first, no matter what else is in the Brexit deal
Transport group warns of no-deal Brexit threat to trade
With Troubles in mind, Irish concern grows over British stance on border | Reuters

And this clown, ffs.

Karen Bradley apologises for remarks on Troubles killings

Bradley provoked widespread criticism on Wednesday when she said “over 90% of the killings during the Troubles were at the hands of terrorists” and that “the under 10% that were at the hands of the military and police were not crimes”.

Showing an apparent ignorance of basic law and the history of Northern Ireland, Bloody Sunday and other incidents including allegations of collusion with paramilitaries and of shoot-to-kill policies, Bradley told the House of Commons soldiers and police were “people acting under orders and instructions, fulfilling their duties in a dignified and appropriate way”.

So, tell me then why these are just random incidents, totally unconnected with the UK government's fuckwittery over "Brexit?"

 

[Pickman's model]

You misunderstand.

It is your use of the word only

oh do read the fucking post where i address this

philosophical there is no complaint about your use of only in this post
there is no complaint about the number of posts you've made in this thread
you had made at the time something like 821 posts in this thread and 56 in other threads. hence the use of only 56, not to complain about the number of posts you've made but to emphasise that the great majority of them have been in this thread. you've not discussed much else here than brexit and if you want to find common ground perhaps you should enter debates on other threads.

it's not a fucking put down, it is an observation of a fact without any such pejorative conclusion drawn.

 

[andysays]

Um, no. I cited 3 incidents over the past 48 hours where improvised explosive devices were found in England and Scotland, originating in Ireland and thought to be connected by the police. I can't recall anything similar happening for at least a decade, probably more. Funny it should be happening right now, dontcha think?

Rather a lot of politicians, academics, historians, and ordinary folks have suggested that the UK Government's failure to uphold its commitments in the Good Friday Agreement with regard to the Border just might run a risk of reopening violent conflict and/or cause serious hardship for Ireland, North and South.

Brexit Could Reawaken Northern Ireland’s Troubles - The Atlantic
Stark no-deal Brexit warning from NI Civil Service head
Northern Ireland must come first, no matter what else is in the Brexit deal
Transport group warns of no-deal Brexit threat to trade
With Troubles in mind, Irish concern grows over British stance on border | Reuters

And this clown, ffs.

Karen Bradley apologises for remarks on Troubles killings



So, tell me then why these are just random incidents, totally unconnected with the UK government's fuckwittery over "Brexit?"

Desperate stuff.

And which of the commitments in the GFA has the UK government failed to uphold, do you think?

 

[philosophical]

oh do read the fucking post where i address this
it's not a fucking put down, it is an observation of a fact without any such pejorative conclusion drawn.

I have read the post.
I reproduce what you said in 25124 below.
Are you an example of somebody misquoting themselves?

i know you didn't use the word 'deny'. to no platform someone is to deny them a platform. if you don't understand that then there's scant hope for you. but given your posting history and your mischaracterisation of people throughout your sojourn here (and sojourn's another word you haven't used, btw) i've never really expected much from you. i expect we have many things we agree on. only you never talk about anything else other than your hobby horse - you've only submitted 56 posts which aren't on this thread. i'm not putting you on ignore.

Simple put down as I said, maybe you don't even realise you're doing it.

 

[Wilf]

Funny it should be happening right now, dontcha think?

Possible there is a Brexit link, but I'd like to hear a tad more evidence than this nonsense.

What really pisses me off is that it sounds as if you'd like it to be Brexit related, such is the excitement with which you post this stuff up.

 

[Ranbay]

Back on topic.... anyone seen this?

 

[CRI]

Possible there is a Brexit link, but I'd like to hear a tad more evidence than this nonsense.

What really pisses me off is that it sounds as if you'd like it to be Brexit related, such is the excitement with which you post this stuff up.

Ah so you are a mind reader then?

Sure, makes it easier to ignore information if you can convince yourself the person presenting it has nefarious intentions. Yup.

 

[Pickman's model]

I have read the post.
I reproduce what you said in 25124 below.
Are you an example of somebody misquoting themselves?

i know you didn't use the word 'deny'. to no platform someone is to deny them a platform. if you don't understand that then there's scant hope for you. but given your posting history and your mischaracterisation of people throughout your sojourn here (and sojourn's another word you haven't used, btw) i've never really expected much from you. i expect we have many things we agree on. only you never talk about anything else other than your hobby horse - you've only submitted 56 posts which aren't on this thread. i'm not putting you on ignore.

Simple put down as I said, maybe you don't even realise you're doing it.

well I can only tell you what was in my mind when I wrote it, all I can say is I can't be held responsible for you so egregiously misreading it. Maybe you're always looking for putdowns

 

[CRI]

Back on topic.... anyone seen this?

 

[andysays]

which of the commitments in the GFA has the UK government failed to uphold, do you think?

 

[philosophical]

well I can only tell you what was in my mind when I wrote it, all I can say is I can't be held responsible for you so egregiously misreading it. Maybe you're always looking for putdowns

 

[Pickman's model]

Believe you me if it had been in the slightest intended as a put down I wouldn't have made it subtle as I've no confidence in your ability to comprehend

 

[SpineyNorman]

Can one wave oneself?

Yeah always best to keep a football sock handy to clean up the mess though.