bubblesmcgrath
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Actually.....its the UK that wants their cake and to eat it.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Actually.....its the UK that wants their cake and to eat it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh. you do know there is, and has been for many years, just such a border on the island of ireland?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Not necessarily saying it shouldn't happen - it's more that I'm questioning the logic that justifies it, and how it can be consistent with not having similar arrangements for other parts of the UK, or indeed how it can be consistent with saying that the rest of the UK should leave the customs union etc.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I should have said "one can't have one's cake and eat it".
Assign blame to whichever subgroup of the population you want. The point is, it's not possible for NI to have a different customs arrangement from the rest of the UK, and also have no customs border anywhere.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
bubblesmcgrath disagrees with you. But it's besides the point.
bubblesmcgrath
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Well...what the UK does with it's constituent parts is none of the ROI business...however the agreement made during the GFA was made between the people and governments of NI and Eire. It was done so with great good will and a desire for peace in Ireland.
It is frightening how this agreement has been ignored by the DUP in their rush headlong to align themselves with Mrs May and her government. It's as if the DUP wants to ignore a huge portion of the people it supposedly is governing (in NI) and they appear to be disrespecting the work of many great people who brokered a peace agreement in NI
Quite frankly the DUP's attitide and behaviour is anti GFA and is unsettling to many people living in NI.and Eire
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Did the DUP not oppose the GFA and not sign it? If so, their position this week is consistent.
bubblesmcgrath
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I don't disagree with picky...
There is an unmanned soft border...and has been since GFA...its indicated on a map....but that's all ..
Freedom of movement to and from NI has been part of this country since the GFA.
Nobody wants a return to a hard border. The border was awful.....barbed wire....soldiers pointing guns at you....arrests for having an Irish name...intimidation....
Fuck that lark.
I'll guarantee this....if they bring back a hard border they will bring back the hell of terrorism....on both sides.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I think it was the Crushing of Catalonia he had in mind as the best bit
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Starry Wisdom
if bubbles disagrees with me, she can tell me so herself. i see you're quite happy stepping forward and speaking for her. it looks more than a bit sexist from where i'm sitting.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
* Pickman's reference to "such a border" refers to:
(1) Border between NI and RoI. Breaks GFA.
(highlighted in red, by pickman's, within Winot's quote)
Argue amongst yourselves.
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bubblesmcgrath
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Lol..
You just cant read can you.....lol
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Starry Wisdom
yeh. you did see i was replying to Winot and not to bubbles? if you don't want to appear stupid step back.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
When I voted remain, I made some kind of assessment of the consequences of the vote going either way. I didn't feel that voting leave would result in a significantly different policies being applied in Greece. I hope that answers your enquiry.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Indeed I did. I've edited my post to make everything super-clear. Hope this helps.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
minus london
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
nothing you do ever helps.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
But London can stay with Scotland, NI and any municipalities which wish to, in the EU?
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Perhaps a China Mieville City and the City solution would work. Crosshatched areas in East London, for instance.
Yossarian
⏭️
They should hold another referendum where people just circle the places on the map they think should be in the same country/countries.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the london bourgeoisie already have the unseeing part down perfectly
Job of the foreign office.
BemusedbyLife
Well-Known Member
No I didn't but the 2 things aren't even remotely connected.
Clearly they are.
BemusedbyLife
Well-Known Member
How?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Bring Eire back in to the UK. No return to terror as the island of Ireland would be united again.
Right, off to sort out them jokers in Korea next.
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