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I watched that documentary film about Fyre Festival a few days ago and it’s just struck me that Brexit is kind of taking the same path, something that promised much, but lead by a stubborn liar who took no advice and didn’t give themselves enough time to do the job properly, with a disastrous outcome. Uncannily similar.
 
I watched that documentary film about Fyre Festival a few days ago and it’s just struck me that Brexit is kind of taking the same path, something that promised much, but lead by a stubborn liar who took no advice and didn’t give themselves enough time to do the job properly, with a disastrous outcome. Uncannily similar.

At least we'll get cheese sandwiches then. :(
 
I watched that documentary film about Fyre Festival a few days ago and it’s just struck me that Brexit is kind of taking the same path, something that promised much, but lead by a stubborn liar who took no advice and didn’t give themselves enough time to do the job properly, with a disastrous outcome. Uncannily similar.

Well I hope Theresa May is prepared to suck Junker’s dick to ensure the Evian water can still get into the UK post Brexit day. Maybe that’s what Corby has just rushed over there to do.
 
I see Corbyn has been over to see the in-laws and is hinting at sticking his neck out a bit more ...
I hope he comes up with the goods because I would have to bite my lip very hard to vote for him currently.
 
I hadn't known before that Gove was an orphan brought up by socialists !
And he may have been actually experiencing some genuine cognitive dissonance with regards to his affected pro-insanity stance.

(I really don't pay any attention to political stuff until it fucks with my life because it gives me the creeps)
 
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I hadn't known before that Gove was an orphan brought up by socialists !
And he may have been actually experiencing some genuine cognitive dissonance with regards to his affected pro-insanity stance.

(I really don't pay any attention to political stuff until it fucks with my life because it gives me the creeps)
They can't have been that socialist, given he went to a private school.
 
They can't have been that socialist, given he went to a private school.

I think a fair percentage of Labout went to private schools, a lot of their children were/are sent to public schools, including current ministers like Abbot, Chakrabarti and Corbyn. so I don't think style of schooling really reflects political leanings
 
I think a fair percentage of Labout went to private schools, a lot of their children were/are sent to public schools, including current ministers like Abbot, Chakrabarti and Corbyn. so I don't think style of schooling really reflects political leanings

Socialist is different from Labour -- there are possibly socialists in the Labour Party but the Labour Party isn't a socialist party -- but yes, there's a lot of hypocrisy about.
 
I think a fair percentage of Labout went to private schools, a lot of their children were/are sent to public schools, including current ministers like Abbot, Chakrabarti and Corbyn. so I don't think style of schooling really reflects political leanings

It's about 13% for Labour. The problem for 'the left' is sending your kids to private school, not being sent. Well, the main one. The further right you move the more likely you will be to have both attended and sent your own kids to private school. So I would say there's clearly an issue of defence of privilege based on experiences of education at play here.
 
Ah thanks for clearing that up Sue. I have always assumed Labour=socialists, Conservatives=capitalists.

Cheers
 
Ah thanks for clearing that up Sue. I have always assumed Labour=socialists, Conservatives=capitalists.

Cheers
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I think a fair percentage of Labout went to private schools, a lot of their children were/are sent to public schools, including current ministers like Abbot, Chakrabarti and Corbyn. so I don't think style of schooling really reflects political leanings
i think you'll find corbyn's son went to qe boys which was selective but not private
 
Random q: what are your views on the Kyle amendment? It seems to be getting remainers excited, though it only has a chance if Labour decide to back it (presumably). But I'd have thought that if there was to be a vote on May's deal vs staying in, May's deal wins by a bigger % than the 2016 vote. Regardless of views on Brexit, which haven't changed much since then, there's bound to be an element of 'ffs, just get it done'. Might be wrong and stories about car factories might swing it, but I'd have thought it was a poor mechanism for remain.
 
There's an extremely (even for her) stupid piece by Toynbee where she argues that Labour should back May's deal so that it can be put to a "people's vote", and thus be defeated and the UK end up remaining in the EU. Even ignoring the sheer contempt for democracy this idea indicates it seems ludicrous when there aren't even the votes for the 2nd referendum in the HoC.
But now Corbyn needs to back the Peter Kyle/Phil Wilson clever compromise. Their plan is for MPs to agree to pass Theresa May’s bad deal, but only on condition it is put to the voters for a final decision. People on both sides of the divide are gathering round this option as the best chance of resolving Brexit, once and for all, whenever May finally holds her meaningful vote.
 
Is that the brexiters and 'we hate everyone' mob coming back to the thread now?

They all disappeared when those 3500 jobs went and people were asking about deportations.
 
There's an extremely (even for her) stupid piece by Toynbee where she argues that Labour should back May's deal so that it can be put to a "people's vote", and thus be defeated and the UK end up remaining in the EU. Even ignoring the sheer contempt for democracy this idea indicates it seems ludicrous when there aren't even the votes for the 2nd referendum in the HoC.
There's nothing quite as contemptuous of democracy as having a public vote, right enough.
 
“Economists for Brexit” group leader Professor Patrick Minford:
"[car industry] "...you are going to have to run it down. It will be in your interests to do it, just as in the same way we ran down the coal and steel industries. These things happen as evolution takes place in your economy."
The devastating future for Welsh manufacturing predicted by a Brexit economist

Patrick motherfucking Minford, an economist of no relevance for the last 30 years, except to the propagands at the Adam Smith Institute. What a cunt.
 
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