Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[gentlegreen]

Fucking hell. Just checked.
Single people have to live on £317 a month benefits these days - that is decidedly grim.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fucking hell. Just checked.
Single people have to live on £317 a month benefits these days - that is decidedly grim.

Sure that's worse in real terms than when I was on the dole 15 years ago

 

[ska invita]

Sure that's worse in real terms than when I was on the dole 15 years ago

£317 wouldve been £162 in 1995, equivalent of £40 a week, whereas I think it was actually about £55 a week in 95 but dont quote me

Historic inflation calculator: how the value of money has changed since 1900 | This is Money

 

[Pickman's model]

£317 wouldve been £162 in 1995, equivalent of £40 a week. I think it was about £55 a week in 95 but dont quote me

Historic inflation calculator: how the value of money has changed since 1900 | This is Money

I was on something like £65 a week in 04 iirc

 

[agricola]

My biggest puzzlement at the moment as I think about my fairly modest retirement (effectively sub-minimum wage / SMIC for at least the first six years), is why the super-wealthy want to be - just how many bathrooms can a person use ?
But there's far too much violence out there already.

Historically, there are few things more demonstrably correct than the notion that extreme wealth is followed by extreme idiocy.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I was on something like £65 a week in 04 iirc

Less if you're under 25. Because young people famously need less food.

 

[two sheds]

That's why MPs' allowances are so high

 

[ska invita]

Why unemployment benefit is worth less than ever

 

[Dogsauce]

I was on the dole around 1995, from memory proper dole was something like £45, but if you didn’t have enough NI contributions you went on income support which was £35 per week. If you got the higher rate (dole) you got some of the difference taken off your housing benefit I think, so still worked out around the same. Tbh it was comfortable living compared to what I’d lived on as a student, but I was living quite basically, no dependants, and did work now and then which kept my head above water.

 

[brogdale]

Wonder which one will be her chancellor?

 

[Favelado]

I was on the dole around 1995, from memory proper dole was something like £45, but if you didn’t have enough NI contributions you went on income support which was £35 per week. If you got the higher rate (dole) you got some of the difference taken off your housing benefit I think, so still worked out around the same. Tbh it was comfortable living compared to what I’d lived on as a student, but I was living quite basically, no dependants, and did work now and then which kept my head above water.

36.15 I remember. A 20 pack of Regal and a copy of the NME was a weekly treat.

 

[Dogsauce]

Regals is a bit extravagant. The smokers I lived with were all on Royals, packs of 25 for the price of a normal 20 pack. Tbh it made me quite anti-smoking seeing them occasionally go without food so they could have tabs.

 

[Favelado]

Regals is a bit extravagant. The smokers I lived with were all on Royals, packs of 25 for the price of a normal 20 pack. Tbh it made me quite anti-smoking seeing them occasionally go without food so they could have tabs.

Did royals exist in 95? I think lambert and butler were the cheap option then

 

[CRI]

Violence is already carried out daily against the poor by the rich - they started the fight. Fuck a few burnt flutes.

You fine with burning cats alive as well I take it. You seem nice.

 

[Raheem]

Did royals exist in 95? I think lambert and butler were the cheap option then

In an episode of Yes Minister from whenever, there was a scene where the minister proposed the measure of taxing cigarettes 'so that a pack of twenty costs about the same as a half bottle of whisky', and everyone would give up smoking. The reaction of the studio audience made it clear that this was completely ludicrous and idiotic.

2019, a half bottle of Famous Grouse is £9 in Sainsbury's and 20 L&B is £10.34 (thanks Google).

Not sure what the moral of the story is, though.

 

[Favelado]

Jesus Christ. 10 quid!

 

[Yossarian]

In an episode of Yes Minister from whenever, there was a scene where the minister proposed the measure of taxing cigarettes 'so that a pack of twenty costs about the same as a half bottle of whisky', and everyone would give up smoking. The reaction of the studio audience made it clear that this was completely ludicrous and idiotic.

"But Minister, won't everybody just switch to smoking roll-ups smuggled over from France?"

 

[Dogsauce]

Did royals exist in 95? I think lambert and butler were the cheap option then

Having done some backwards counting I’ve figured out that I moved out of that house in summer 1995, so yes. I think most people I know moved onto rollies eventually. Nobody does proper fags anymore.

 

[Sprocket.]

Surely this is nothing to worry about - just the silly old Health Service Journal and the Royal College of Radiologists stoking the flames of Project Fear.

Some cancer treatment may be delayed post-Brexit



Cue the, "What's wrong with growing our own British isotopes, eh?"

According to one of the radiologists who did my PET scan recently we get very little in the form of isotopes from Europe at the moment anyway.
France is using most of the suitable isotopes they produce for their own services. Britain has for years relied on Canadian and American sources. Those these are not available at the moment.
The isotopes available from Russia and China do not meet our/European safety standards
Apparently our biggest supplier of isotopes currently is South Africa.
Lots of panic over a problem already being sorted maybe.

ETA: currently there are four reactors worldwide that produce suitable isotopes for using as tracers. The original biggest producing reactors in the States had all come to the end of their natural lifespan around the same time, causing a worldwide shortage.
Coincidentally the nuclear industry in the States announced yesterday that funding was available for four new current reactors to produce Mo-99 that creates Technetium-99m, used as tracers in medical radiography.
I cannot post a link at the moment but will later.


Edit: Link as promised.
Four US companies chosen for Mo-99 production funding - World Nuclear News

 

[gentlegreen]

As with politics, I try not to think of my finances very much, but it's on my mind as I figure out how to live on a pension and it turns out that my contribution to the famous "£350 million extra a week for the NHS" as someone getting around the UK average salary is currently 70p per week or 10p per day.
Including indirect taxation, it's apparently about 50 cents per day for the average EU citizen when you factor-in indirect taxation..

 

[mojo pixy]

Did royals exist in 95? I think lambert and butler were the cheap option then

I remember buying Royals in 25s from the Lo Cost supermarket in Fratton during 1995.

They also sold "whisky style spirit drink", plus brandy and vodka variations, £5 a bottle.

 

[Favelado]

I used to write cheques for 5 quid to buy 40 cigarettes when my income support was running out, knowing that they would take 3 days to clear, by which time I'd have money in my account again.

 

[Humberto]

Speak about necessary abandonment of brexit betwixt 'affordable' outcomes and an offer of establishment, and nobody relates openly about another alternative to ending an arrangement of officiality conspiring to end a legitimate hoax of fortunate ex-helpless suppurating subordinates.

 

[Wookey]

Speak about necessary abandonment of brexit betwixt 'affordable' outcomes and an offer of establishment, and nobody relates openly about another alternative to ending an arrangement of officiality conspiring to end a legitimate hoax of fortunate ex-helpless suppurating subordinates.

Whoseitonthewhatnow??

 

[weltweit]

There were some folk pointing out my spending on fags back when I used to smoke.

I now note that they down a bottle of wine a night which is about the same cost.

 

[Humberto]

Whoseitonthewhatnow??

What?

 

[Wookey]

What?

Sorry Humberto ! I didn't understand a word of what you said is all. I promise I tried and tried!

 

[Humberto]

Sorry Humberto ! I didn't understand a word of what you said is all. I promise I tried and tried!

Well that's not a problem

 

[Ming]

I still think it's a planned series of events. Here's a clip from when Alex got forced into the foreign office post and it was released to the Washington press pack with John Kerry. Particularly from 01:20 onwards. Look at the way Alex is eye gouging the reporter.
edit: the second half is a bit referendum 01:20 to 0300ish. Then
Alex starts bullshitting.

 

[Poi E]

Christ he was outclassed. These guys don't cut it on the world stage.