Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[redsquirrel]

There's nothing quite as contemptuous of democracy as having a public vote, right enough.

Yes those public votes in Iraq under Saddam Hussian were the model of democracy.

The vote Toynbee desires is purposely designed to block any Leave by insisting on a false choice between May's deal or Remain. You might be (probably are) the sort of prick that thinks that is democratic but most people have enough intelligence/honesty to see through this plan for what it is.

 

[CRI]

Surely this is nothing to worry about - just the silly old Health Service Journal and the Royal College of Radiologists stoking the flames of Project Fear.

Some cancer treatment may be delayed post-Brexit

Royal College of Radiologists has not seen “any finite logistical detail” of increased air freight capacity needed to deliver short-life medical isotopes.
If Brexit delays imports, trusts will have to prioritise which patients receive cancer care.
Latest government report on issue did not confirm a final exit deal was in place to ensure continuity of supply.

Cue the, "What's wrong with growing our own British isotopes, eh?"

 

[CRI]

With just a few weeks to set this shit up . . . Easy, peasy, Lemon squeezy (but only lemons grown in the UK soon . . . )



Not surprised they disabled comments under that video!

 

[Pickman's model]

Surely this is nothing to worry about - just the silly old Health Service Journal and the Royal College of Radiologists stoking the flames of Project Fear.

Some cancer treatment may be delayed post-Brexit



Cue the, "What's wrong with growing our own British isotopes, eh?"

cue the what's donald trump up to today questions

 

[DexterTCN]

 

[gentlegreen]

Is that the brexiters and 'we hate everyone' mob coming back to the thread now?

They all disappeared when those 3500 jobs went and people were asking about deportations.

Personally I feel somewhat "used" by Corbyn.
Having been burned by Blair and his war, and the disaster of Brown as PM, I was still in a libdem frame of mind in 2010 - and it seemed Cameroon needed another coalition to stave off the swivel-headed fraternity, but I was made to feel like a class traitor by people here and elsewhere, so gave Corbyn a go in 2015 ... I even voted for him again in 2017 - I didn't take his promises seriously, but the vile advertising I saw on Youtube was far worse ...

The Brexit boil would have hit critical mass eventually I suppose, but personally I needed it to wait until I was safely settled in France and naturalised there.

Anyway at least Corbyn is making slight noises in the right direction and parliament will probably pull us back from the cliff at the last moment - though clearly massive damage has already been done.

 

[redsquirrel]

You certainly didn't give Corbyn "a go" in 2015. And the rest of the post is equally nonsense. Go crawling back to the yellow tories.

 

[danny la rouge]

You certainly didn't give Corbyn "a go" in 2015.

Certainly not at the general election.

gentlegreen can you clarify?

 

[gentlegreen]

Certainly not at the general election.

gentlegreen can you clarify?

Oh yes it was that Milliway chap ?

I pay very little attention in between having to pinch my nose and find someone to vote for ..

 

[gentlegreen]

You certainly didn't give Corbyn "a go" in 2015. And the rest of the post is equally nonsense. Go crawling back to the yellow tories.

Better a yellow Tory than a disaster socialist.
I'm sorry if you have so little invested in day to day life.

 

[butchersapron]

Better a yellow Tory than a disaster socialist.
I'm sorry if you have so little invested in day to day life.

The poorest he that is in England hath a right to live as the greatest he.

Only those with a material interest (that means money and property) in this country - should have a say demands man escaping off to france from 1647.

This is pre-civil war basic understanding of what right anyone has to speak here.

You've lost your life.

 

[redsquirrel]

Yep redistribution from the poor to the rich, increasing poverty, people dying due to the attacks on the benefit system, the dismantling of what remains of the welfare state - nothing to see here it doesn't affect me.

Some minor inconvenience to being able to retire to France - Oh noes!

Fantastic example of the I'm alright Jack mentality of LibDems.

 

[brogdale]

Better a yellow Tory than a disaster socialist.

Nasty stuff.

 

[redsquirrel]

Soubrey post defection

“the coalition government did a marvellous job” and that austerity was “absolutely necessary and I don’t have a problem with that”.

That's the politics of TIG and their pals in the LibDems

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh yes it was that Milliway chap ?

I pay very little attention in between having to pinch my nose and find someone to vote for ..

Yes. Miliband. He of the Miliband Monolith.

So was it people on here who urged you to vote for Miiband or be “made to feel like a class traitor”?

 

[gentlegreen]

I was encouraged to vote "labour" to avoid propping up the Tories for another term.
I had a work colleague assume I was a party member for some bizarre reason (maybe because he knew I posted here and knew others who do) and was encouraging me to support Corbyn in a leadership challenge because he's appointed Kerry McCarthy (vegan) as shadow agriculture minister.

To be fair, in 2017 I was voting for Thangam Debbonaire.

 

[gentlegreen]

The poorest he that is in England hath a right to live as the greatest he.

Only those with a material interest (that means money and property) in this country - should have a say demands man escaping off to france from 1647.

This is pre-civil war basic understanding of what right anyone has to speak here.

You've lost your life.

Do you spend every moment of your life considering the millions living life in abject misery ?

And YOU dictate who has the right to speak here ?

 

[butchersapron]

Eh?

 

[gentlegreen]

Oh I see ...
I was just wondering why certain people would be so happy to have violent revolution.

 

[butchersapron]

Oh I see ...
I was just wondering why certain people would be so happy to have violent revolution.

Because they are poor and thus should have no say seems to be your answer. Bring us back to 1647.

 

[gentlegreen]

I mean people on here - though I suppose that could be true of them.
But rioting would affect many on here.

I'm haunted by that poor woman who had loads of priceless musical instruments burned in a fire during some riots a while back.

EDIT:

And she lost her cats too.

Musicians support renowned flautist who lost all in riot arson | Eastlondonlines

 

[butchersapron]

**

 

[killer b]

I guess if you wonder why some people might consider violent insurrection a necessity, you could look around you at the ferocity of the pushback currently underway against the mildest of redistributional politics being proposed by Corbyn's Labour.

 

[gentlegreen]

My biggest puzzlement at the moment as I think about my fairly modest retirement (effectively sub-minimum wage / SMIC for at least the first six years), is why the super-wealthy want to be - just how many bathrooms can a person use ?
But there's far too much violence out there already.

 

[killer b]

Violence is already carried out daily against the poor by the rich - they started the fight. Fuck a few burnt flutes.

 

[gentlegreen]

What would you say is the male-female ratio in rioting ?

 

[danny la rouge]

What would you say is the male-female ratio in rioting ?

Ask the grrls.

 

[killer b]

I'd agree riots need to be made more accessible to women and children. Arm them perhaps?

 

[redsquirrel]

Yes that's the only possible choice - rioting or supporting attacks on the poor.

 

[DexterTCN]

Sad about all those jobs though, eh. You know...brexit.