Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
So that Corbyn can have a go at fucking up Brexit?
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
- Thread starter Kaka Tim
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So that Corbyn can have a go at fucking up Brexit?
MightyTibberton
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Fair enough. The one I saw said it was the first that showed Labour would win a parliamentary majority (I think it said around 10 seats) based on some electoral calculus (!) I'm not going to understand, not just that they'd have the most votes. I won't pretend I've been closely monitoring polls, mind.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's the richer areas of those towns attempting to secede from the areas that make their money for them? I'd be well up for that.
MightyTibberton
Well-Known Member
I'm right on a disputed border in my city!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
which side are you on boy?
MightyTibberton
Well-Known Member
I wonder sometimes...
Yossarian
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The first two more akin to Scotland or NI in the breadth of the Remain vote, probably a different story with Newcastle.
But if NI is seen as benefiting from uneven application of the Brexit rules, even the Isle of Wight or Lincolnshire might end up looking for deals.
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Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
well today's brexit shenanigans were Hilariously cack handed - even by Theresa May's standards.
Who would have thought that the DUP would not go along with special status being given to northern ireland? - apart from everyone who has spent 30 seconds familiarising themselves with the DUP's core political beliefs.
May is politically paralysed. She painted her self into a corner a year ago by ruling out staying in the single market - and then chopped her own legs off by gambling away her commons majority - now she is utterly trapped.
You'd expect most leaders on her position to throw in the towel - but she appears to be like some sort of masochistic limpit - miserably clinging on to office for no discernible purpose - she has no authority and is unable to make a single meaningful political decision.
Who would have thought that the DUP would not go along with special status being given to northern ireland? - apart from everyone who has spent 30 seconds familiarising themselves with the DUP's core political beliefs.
May is politically paralysed. She painted her self into a corner a year ago by ruling out staying in the single market - and then chopped her own legs off by gambling away her commons majority - now she is utterly trapped.
You'd expect most leaders on her position to throw in the towel - but she appears to be like some sort of masochistic limpit - miserably clinging on to office for no discernible purpose - she has no authority and is unable to make a single meaningful political decision.
gosub
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cos if she goes we get Boris.
Boris vs Corbyn vs spunking cock.
right made my mind up, bring on the next election
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
cos if she goes we get Boris.
Boris vs Corbyn vs spunking cock.
I suspect Boris has very little chance of taking over. Although he will try undoubtedly.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
How it can happen is simple inertia - as it stands, and bar the LibDems winning a GE in the next 18 months, the UK will simply drop out of the EU on the 29th March 2019. There doesn't have to be a deal or an agreement of any kind in place, or on the table for it to happen, it will just happen in exactly the same way as you letting your gym membership lapse...
What the consequences if that might be is up for discussion, but that's what the process is.
gosub
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who ever it is, tories are painted themselves into continued austerity and limited house building coupled with an unworkable Brexit that leads to the breakup of the UK.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
ska invita
back on the other side
talking of Corbyn, supposedly today he said
“It is disappointing that there has not been progress in the Brexit negotiations after months of delays and grandstanding. Labour has been clear from the outset that we need a jobs first Brexit deal that works for the whole of the United Kingdom” - does anyone know for certain what that position is yet? I wildly guess from that its a stay in the common market position is it? Jobs First Brexit is not really much clearer that a Red White and Blue one, unless I've missed something?
“It is disappointing that there has not been progress in the Brexit negotiations after months of delays and grandstanding. Labour has been clear from the outset that we need a jobs first Brexit deal that works for the whole of the United Kingdom” - does anyone know for certain what that position is yet? I wildly guess from that its a stay in the common market position is it? Jobs First Brexit is not really much clearer that a Red White and Blue one, unless I've missed something?
Supine
Newt Member
It's a load of vacuous tosh. Easy to say when your in opposition.
ska invita
back on the other side
logic seems to dictate that Corbyn would do what May is trying to do now, namely go along with those key EU demands. Brexit would at least happen under those terms I guess. What it would do to Labours support is hard to predict...I guess would depend how much blood on the walls there will be after the Tory party finally rips itself apart over Europe once and for all...enough mess and critics might go along with it as the only option, for the time being at least.
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toblerone3
Grrrrr
Exactly how I feel.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Ulster says No.
bubblesmcgrath
Well-Known Member
It's feckin genetic at this stage
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Arlene is using this to make a name for herself. She looked positively joyous..like a kid getting the best toy in the shop...only it's broken and there wont be any returning it and it's fooked without batteries and they aren't for sale in her part of her imaginary world full of only unionists who cant fix a toy to warm themselves.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Anything concrete he says at this point is likely to lose him ground somehow. I daresay someone at labour HQ has run the numbers on this and decided that the best thing to do at this point is quietly watch the tories fuck the pooch. Best thing for the labour party that is, not necessarily what anyone thinks is in the national interest.
gosub
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I'm not a fan of the DUP, but they got that right. Shittist possible deal that would have had EU picking off bits of the UK over the next 20years. That May even considered it means she's got to go.
EFTA all the way
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Official Labour policy seems to be that they would stay in single market transitionally or permanently. Which I would argue is a retreat from the "Jobs First" line that they used in the GE - I quite liked that, no point saying what you would do in negotiations you're not part of but sets out a basic aim, and while it is vague like the RWB Brexit at least its a vague promise of prioritising jobs rather than nationalism. Whether or not you agree that the Jobs First thing is compatible with single market membership depends on what your job creation strategy is really - presumably Corbyn's was going to focus on public sector and nationalisation, I don't think this fits.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's way too soon to say 'shittest possible deal'. If there's a good deal on the table at any point someone will sabotage it for some stupid fucking reason and we'll end up with a last minute fag-packet deal that will go down in history as the UK's suicide note.
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Agreed but I'd rather Labour carried on letting the tories fuck up brexit a bit longer, just to make sure it is all the tories' fault.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
What will it be?
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