Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[butchersapron]

None particularly, it is the concept of Nationalism that I struggle with.

I think your posts don't say any such thing. It's a particular nationalism (or what you think is a particular nationalism) that you struggle with. But you struggle with it on counter-nationalist grounds. In fact, your fundamentals are entirely nationalist.

 

[Wookey]

I'm talking more of your inability to politically read this nonsense for what it is.

It's trying to stop the No Deal nightmare in a democratically justifiable way is what I can see.

How would you propose preventing a crash out and the misery that will almost certainly ensue?

 

[Wookey]

Literally! I had to repeat it out loud to get the full surreality of that...

 

[quiet guy]

Farage - the gob-shite that keeps on giving

 

[butchersapron]

It's just shorthand for idiosyncrasy versus
bureaucracy

It's what good politicians do.

 

[cupid_stunt]

'I want funny and odd shaped apples, and that is going to be one of the biggest benefits of Brexit... "

Word for word what Farage just said on LBC.

He meant to say, 'I want funny and odd shaped balls'.

Why that has anything to do with Brexit I have no idea, he's been surrounded by oddballs for years.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

'I want funny and odd shaped apples, and that is going to be one of the biggest benefits of Brexit... "

Word for word what Farage just said on LBC.

^^^^^
This needs to be plastered on signs and buses all over the UK. Along with...
"This is one of the brains behind Brexit."
"This is your future"

 

[Pickman's model]

^^^^^
This needs to be plastered on signs and buses all over the UK. Along with...
"This is one of the brains behind Brexit."
"This is your future"

Not sure that's fair on wookey

 

[prunus]

'I want funny and odd shaped apples, and that is going to be one of the biggest benefits of Brexit... "

Word for word what Farage just said on LBC.

Leaving aside the total fuckwittedness of the statement as it stands, it isn’t even true that the EU has ever in any way prevented the sale of funny or odd shaped anything.

The man is a cunt, a liar and a fraud, brexit is a shitshow, and the whole thing is fucked.

 

[2hats]

it isn’t even true that the EU has ever in any way prevented the sale of funny or add shaped anything.

The man is a cunt, a liar and a fraud, brexit is a shitshow

You’ll have to prise the wonky British apples, that we are definitely not allowed to purchase, from my cold, dead hands.

 

[philosophical]

I think your posts don't say any such thing. It's a particular nationalism (or what you think is a particular nationalism) that you struggle with. But you struggle with it on counter-nationalist grounds. In fact, your fundamentals are entirely nationalist.

Your guesswork is wrong, especially your guesswork regarding my 'fundamentals'.

 

[Raheem]

You’ll have to prise the wonky British apples, that we are definitely not allowed to purchase, from my cold, dead hands.
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It's not what Britons overwhelmingly voted for. If you can look at it and be reasonably sure it's an apple, that's Brexit-in-name-only.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Brexit....fuckin all about apples and oranges...

 

[butchersapron]

Your guesswork is wrong, especially your guesswork regarding my 'fundamentals'.

No guesswork mein nationalist friend.

 

[xenon]

For anyone else who didn't hear LBC this morning, , Farage was going on about the desirability of buying British food. Support your local farmer etc etc. Brexit making this all the more possible of course. Never mind that the economist hard brexiters love siting, Proph Patrick Minford, has said a no deal would likely lead to the desimation of British farming and manufacturing and that this is a good thing because cheap Austrailian beef and more sweat shop goods can be imported.

 

[xenon]

^^^^^
This needs to be plastered on signs and buses all over the UK. Along with...
"This is one of the brains behind Brexit."
"This is your future"

The apple thing is stupid. I dispise Farage but all he was commenting about there, was about the variety of fruit and vege we've lost due to supermarket buying practises. He was talking to a caller who brought this up. The caller talking about his forebares who grew several different local apple species but couldn't sell them to the supermarkets because uniformity is what's demanded.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

The apple thing is stupid. I dispise Farage but all he was commenting about there, was about the variety of fruit and vege we've lost due to supermarket buying practises. He was talking to a caller who brought this up. The caller talking about his forebares who grew several different local apple species but couldn't sell them to the supermarkets because uniformity is what's demanded.

I know what he meant.
But it's his mind set that everything will be peachy (to bring in more fruit) post brexit. It's the mythical view of a return to a picture box olde englande with horses happily ploughing in fields and the idea that life will be like the Hovis ad again.

It won't.
And it will be shit.
For here too.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

For anyone else who didn't hear LBC this morning, , Farage was going on about the desirability of buying British food. Support your local farmer etc etc. Brexit making this all the more possible of course. Never mind that the economist hard brexiters love siting, Proph Patrick Minford, has said a no deal would likely lead to the desimation of British farming and manufacturing and that this is a good thing because cheap Austrailian beef and more sweat shop goods can be imported.

Buying British was surely always an option?

 

[xenon]

Buying British was surely always an option?

Well yeah. Importing cheaper food, goods and labour is just normal business, under the EU or without. A no deal will be pretty disasterous it seems, making local grown food less likely to compete, not more is my particular contention.

 

[grit]

For anyone else who didn't hear LBC this morning, , Farage was going on about the desirability of buying British food. Support your local farmer etc etc. Brexit making this all the more possible of course. Never mind that the economist hard brexiters love siting, Proph Patrick Minford, has said a no deal would likely lead to the desimation of British farming and manufacturing and that this is a good thing because cheap Austrailian beef and more sweat shop goods can be imported.

For all the predictions this one feels to me as striking the balance between being very damaging and most likely to happen. If tariffs go to 0%, it has the potential to just wipe out local producers.

 

[brogdale]

Buying British was surely always an option?

Some of us here will remember the (in)famous 1968 'campaign to get people 'buying British'.
Turned out the tee-shirts were made in fash Portugal!



That's still on my bush-hat...under the stairs.

 

[DexterTCN]

Well yeah. Importing cheaper food, goods and labour is just normal business, under the EU or without. A no deal will be pretty disasterous it seems, making local grown food less likely to compete, not more is my particular contention.

Not only can't they compete, they can't even come anywhere close to filling the shelves.

Around 50% of veg and 90% (not a typo) of fruit is non-domestic. (A large part is Spanish, they have a proper food industry because of the weather.)

So at this stage there will not be enough food.

 

[DexterTCN]

Meanwhile in another part of the UK.

 

[andysays]

'I want funny and odd shaped apples, and that is going to be one of the biggest benefits of Brexit... "

Word for word what Farage just said on LBC.

Sounds like Brexit has just been a covert Morrisons marketing campaign with Farage at its head

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Not only can't they compete, they can't even come anywhere close to filling the shelves.

Around 50% of veg and 90% (not a typo) of fruit is non-domestic. (A large part is Spanish, they have a proper food industry because of the weather.)

So at this stage there will not be enough food.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

When is May going to wake up and see that this is a shit way to lead a country.

 

[andysays]

The apple thing is stupid. I dispise Farage but all he was commenting about there, was about the variety of fruit and vege we've lost due to supermarket buying practises. He was talking to a caller who brought this up. The caller talking about his forebares who grew several different local apple species but couldn't sell them to the supermarkets because uniformity is what's demanded.

It's also because each variety which is grown commercially has to have a special EU licence, the cost of which is ridiculous, so traditional niche varieties of, for example, apples aren't economic to licence and therefore can't be produced.

It's a pretty bizarre thing for Farage to mention at this point, though I'm certainly not suddenly regretting my vote to Leave on the basis of some nonsense he's just come out with.

 

[gentlegreen]

'I want funny and odd shaped apples, and that is going to be one of the biggest benefits of Brexit... "

Word for word what Farage just said on LBC.

Has he given up on fish ?
I never quite figured out if he meant that ring-fenced fish would be cheap enough for the Brits to actually start buying it.

 

[Badgers]

When is May going to wake up and see that this is a shit way to lead a country.

When she is interested in the country and not her party/husband/friend/donor/business interests one would assume?

 

[Pickman's model]

When is May going to wake up and see that this is a shit way to lead a country.

Quick, the pillow - she need never wake up