Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

And you've said nothing to make me feel any better, or contradict what I have said, because let's face it, you don't even understand what you've done, do you?

I hope you don't come here expecting people to make you feel better or agree with you

 

[Teaboy]

Any road, if it wasn't clear before, may's strategy is to play for time. Vote late January or even later - they can't even get her to answer that question. ERG wankers just huff and puff about putting pressure on to limit the backstop, she carries on saying 'yes dear'. They never get the 48 letters, labour never gets an election and... 'something' gets passed in about 8 weeks. MPs shuffle off and refuse to look their constituents in the eye. Democracy eh?

Yes, play for time. Keep ducking and diving and hope to be able to scrape something through.

 

[kabbes]

Why are you so eager to take me out of the one piece of legislation that protects me from future gay-hating Tory governments?

It was indeed the EU that made the gay-hating Tory government legalise gay marriage.

 

[agricola]

Yes, play for time. Keep ducking and diving and hope to be able to scrape something through.

TBH I think she'll wait until the last possible moment and then give the ERG / DUP a choice; either this deal or withdraw Article 50. She probably has a majority for both.

 

[Sprocket.]

Bercow the thorn in May’s side this afternoon.

 

[andysays]

And you've said nothing to make me feel any better, or contradict what I have said, because let's face it, you don't even understand what you've done, do you?

Don't worry dear, I'm sure that newly armed with your Irish citizenry you'll be able to to exercise your inalienable human rights to join the military.

Maybe you can start a thread to let us know how you get on in basic training

 

[Wilf]

Yes, play for time. Keep ducking and diving and hope to be able to scrape something through.

I don't even see her as a back door remainer any more. It really is about surviving and making up for her stupidity in calling the 2017 election. Her only criteria for accepting a proposed deal is that it has the word deal in it.

 

[brogdale]

Bercow the thorn in May’s side this afternoon.

They'll ignore him.

 

[brogdale]

They'll ignore him.

We are in plan B now...and it ain't nothing to do with democracy

 

[Sprocket.]

We are in plan B now...and it ain't nothing to do with democracy

And when has democracy had anything to do with politics.

 

[brogdale]

And when has democracy had anything to do with politics.

Fair..should have said voting.

 

[Yossarian]

Here's what the TUC has to say about LGBT rights and Brexit - sounds like there could be reason to worry, especially with the DUP propping up the government.

LGBT+ rights and Brexit: the facts

 

[Wilf]

From May's point of view, she did well today. Held it together, managed to get it out there that the vote will be 2 months+ away, didn't encounter any systematic opposition (it was almost all opposition to her plan, but the number of MPs asking about a second ref played into her hands). Corbyn wasn't even memorable.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Bercow showing why the Labour Party allowed themselves to be painted as in denial about workplace bullying etc when they went all out to keep him in position last month...

Bercow is an obnoxious little cunt.

 

[agricola]

I don't even see her as a back door remainer any more. It really is about surviving and making up for her stupidity in calling the 2017 election. Her only criteria for accepting a proposed deal is that it has the word deal in it.

She wasn't stupid to call the 2017 election (as opposed to how that was fought, which was profoundly stupid); the likes of Rees-Mogg were always going to hate her deal and it needed 60+ others to make them an irrelevance.

 

[TopCat]

Don't worry dear, I'm sure that newly armed with your Irish citizenry you'll be able to to exercise your inalienable human rights to join the military.

Maybe you can start a thread to let us know how you get on in basic training

It's the big issue.

 

[Teaboy]

TBH I think she'll wait until the last possible moment and then give the ERG / DUP a choice; either this deal or withdraw Article 50. She probably has a majority for both.

I don't know. Nothing I've seen from her so far suggests she will countenance a withdrawal of article 50. A no deal crash out seems the more likely scenario.

 

[TopCat]

I don't know. Nothing I've seen from her so far suggests she will countenance a withdrawal of article 50. A no deal crash out seems the more likely scenario.

A no deal crash out will be worse for the capitalists. Hence less likely than simply saying fuck democracy and revoking Article 50.

 

[The Fornicator]

Siri : If there is a vote of confidence in the PM, how long will we have to wait after that until we get a second MPs vote? (( #MPvote ))

 

[brogdale]

Siri : If there is a vote of confidence in the PM, how long will we have to wait after that until we get an MPs vote? (( #MPvote ))

Siri should be confused by a question asking about a vote of confidence leading to any change.

 

[The Fornicator]

You're right, I should just ask Caroline Lucas instead.

 

[Wookey]

Don't worry dear, I'm sure that newly armed with your Irish citizenry you'll be able to to exercise your inalienable human rights to join the military.

Maybe you can start a thread to let us know how you get on in basic training

I see you find this funny.

How enlightening.

 

[The Fornicator]

me, me, me, me, me!

 

[agricola]

I don't know. Nothing I've seen from her so far suggests she will countenance a withdrawal of article 50. A no deal crash out seems the more likely scenario.

They've been mentioning the possibility of "no Brexit at all" for at least a couple of weeks now, and Parliament can (and probably will) prevent a no deal crashout because there is not the majority to allow it to happen. Her problem is the ERG and the DUP, she has to get them back on side or she can't pass any deal.

 

[gosub]

Am I the only Urabanite who doesn't know what "frit" means ?
(Dennis Skinner)

The act of sallow frying in batter as pineapple fritter

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't know. Nothing I've seen from her so far suggests she will countenance a withdrawal of article 50. A no deal crash out seems the more likely scenario.

Tbh she's set the scene for this clusterfuck and afaics she won't have control of any of this much longer. But she's done a grand job blocking brexit

 

[Teaboy]

They've been mentioning the possibility of "no Brexit at all" for at least a couple of weeks now, and Parliament can (and probably will) prevent a no deal crashout because there is not the majority to allow it to happen. Her problem is the ERG and the DUP, she has to get them back on side or she can't pass any deal.

Yeah but today she just waived her hand and said no vote, it seems she can kick that all the way to the day before the finish line. The ERG want a crash out, why would they back any deal?

 

[brogdale]

Yeah but today she just waived her hand and said no vote, it seems she can kick that all the way to the day before the finish line. The ERG want a crash out, why would they back any deal?

Yep, the only game in town now; take it to the wire and deny any chance of voting on anything. Ironically, very EUish in strategy.

 

[agricola]

Yeah but today she just waived her hand and said no vote, it seems she can kick that all the way to the day before the finish line. The ERG want a crash out, why would they back any deal?

Because they'll never get it.

 

[TopCat]

Tbh she's set the scene for this clusterfuck and afaics she won't have control of any of this much longer. But she's done a grand job blocking brexit

Do you think this was her intention all along?
Fuck Brexit and herself with it but get a Kinnock style treachery job with the EU after?