Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[cupid_stunt]

He's on wiki - Stephen Barclay - Wikipedia

He is most notable for everyone on twitter asking who he was when made Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union.

Bollocks, that quote has already been removed from wiki.

I should have done a screen-grab.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

You have got to wonder just how far down the list he was to be 'chosen', around 20-30 I reckon.

 

[paolo]

Snipped from some Graun analysis:

“Some EU governments are under pressure from populist parties to get the UK out of the EU as soon as possible.”

Any suggestion which parties might be being referred to there?

 

[Lord Camomile]

You have got to wonder just how far down the list he was to be 'chosen', around 20-30 I reckon.

It's sort of like the 'designated survivor' in US politics, who doesn't go to the State of the Union so that someone from government survives if there's a catastrophe that wipes out everyone there.

Only in this case he just walked into the catastrophe

 

[Wilf]

Rudds back apparently. Thought she was a second ref type now? Is this all making the cabinet a bit more remainey?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

tbh how many people had heard of Raab before he was appointed? I hadn't. They've been scraping away at that barrel for so long it's starting to splinter.

 

[friedaweed]

Rudds back apparently. Thought she was a second ref type now? Is this all making the cabinet a bit more remainey?

Like it wasn't already

 

[Lord Camomile]

tbh how many people had heard of Raab before he was appointed? I hadn't. They've been scraping away at that barrel for so long it's starting to splinter.

They're through the barrel and into the dirt.

 

[Rob Ray]

Does May have anything to lose by bringing No Deal types on board at this stage? And would any of them say yes in any case? It's endgame time for the ERG, no point at all for any of them to keep pretending there's a semblance of unity left.

 

[Wilf]

Like it wasn't already

Yeah, but there's now no attempt to maintain the 'balance' of remain weirdos and brexit weirdos in the cabinet. This Barclay feller is there to just do whatever the fuck he is told presumably. I'm truly shocked to reach the conclusion this is a shambles!

 

[brogdale]

Perhaps he was the first one on the list that promised to tear up his letter?

 

[Rob Ray]

 

[cupid_stunt]

Bollocks, that quote has already been removed from wiki.

I should have done a screen-grab.

Found it in the 'edit history'.

 

[Wilf]

Maybe Barclay is scared of flying so if the ERG lot demand re-negotiations he'll just say 'can't, got a doctor's note'.

 

[agricola]

I’ve just been looking him up. Wikipedia knows fuck all about him either.

The Guardian used an FT quote which described him as "a former banker and regulator", which if nothing else is a sentence that tells one all one needs to know about why financial crashes keep happening.

 

[brogdale]

Yep

 

[bemused]

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Yep

No one else wanted the gig.

 

[paolo]

Maybe Barclay is scared of flying so if the ERG lot demand re-negotiations he'll just say 'can't, got a doctor's note'.

I suspect he won’t need to worry about any Brussels trips any time soon.

Brexit deal: take it or leave it, EU tells Britain

Which, if you believe David Davis, is just brinkmanship. That’s the man who turned up to negotiations three months late, photographed without any notes or even a pen.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I have never heard of this bloke but I know he is a cunt

Its a special gift I have

 

[Sprocket.]

When Armando Iannucci said UK politics is now too silly for satire, oh how we laughed!

 

[paolo]

Somewhere in the news commentary, there’s a claim that he’ll only be tasked with no deal preparations stuff. Any more discussion* with the EU will be May / Robbins.

“Bonjour Michel”
“Ah Theresa, Ca va?”
“Well, erm, I was wondering if we could schedule some time to discuss some changes...”

CLICK

“Michel?...”

(Turns to Robbins)

“...That’s odd. I’ve got four bars. Have you got four bars?”

 

[friedaweed]

Yeah, but there's now no attempt to maintain the 'balance' of remain weirdos and brexit weirdos in the cabinet. This Barclay feller is there to just do whatever the fuck he is told presumably. I'm truly shocked to reach the conclusion this is a shambles!

Judging by the way Fraulein May has been carrying on lately it's pretty clear they're all expected to do as they're told. She's actually cracking on ok with it too. She's a lot more strong and stable than we give her credit for I think. She's the new ...

We'll be stuck with her forever now

 

[paolo]

Marina Hyde’s latest on the shit show is just out. A few wry smiles to be had. Unless you like the Tory players in all this. Which you don’t, and hardly anyone else does either, so tuck in:

In this Westminster battle of the bastards, we’re all going down with the ship | Marina Hyde

 

[isvicthere?]

The Suns Political editor has tweeted



Any labour mp contemplating any such thing is committing Political suicide surely?

I don't know. Getting in bed with the tories did the LibDems a world of good.

 

[Winot]

Marina Hyde’s latest on the shit show is just out. A few wry smiles to be had. Unless you like the Tory players in all this. Which you don’t, and hardly anyone else does either, so tuck in:

In this Westminster battle of the bastards, we’re all going down with the ship | Marina Hyde

I generally think she’s overrated, but that is superb.

 

[existentialist]

Or '@bbclaurak'

 

[SpackleFrog]

So May is obviously gonna try and get this deal through and it doesn't look like anyone is gonna act against her for now.

I'm wracking my brain trying to think about how this goes and I can only think of 3 options:

1) May is talking to arch Remoaner Labour types and believes she can get enough of them to back her and get it through

2) May actually doesn't want to get it through and is sabotaging Brexit

3) May is far, far more deluded than any of us give her credit for.

Am I missing something? What's going on here?

 

[Pickman's model]

So May is obviously gonna try and get this deal through and it doesn't look like anyone is gonna act against her for now.

I'm wracking my brain trying to think about how this goes and I can only think of 3 options:

1) May is talking to arch Remoaner Labour types and believes she can get enough of them to back her and get it through

2) May actually doesn't want to get it through and is sabotaging Brexit

3) May is far, far more deluded than any of us give her credit for.

Am I missing something? What's going on here?

We are running down the clock so there are three alternatives, efta, no deal, remain. There will be no no deal. There will be no Norway now Canada later. There will be no may deal so it is efta or as you were. My money on as you were.

 

[paolo]

So May is obviously gonna try and get this deal through and it doesn't look like anyone is gonna act against her for now.

I'm wracking my brain trying to think about how this goes and I can only think of 3 options:

1) May is talking to arch Remoaner Labour types and believes she can get enough of them to back her and get it through

2) May actually doesn't want to get it through and is sabotaging Brexit

3) May is far, far more deluded than any of us give her credit for.

Am I missing something? What's going on here?

Likely to be trying to get some support from a few Labour MPs. Or anyone. Might not be phoning the SNP or Plaid Cymru quite yet though.

I think her mentality is, I’ve got this far, might as well have a crack at the last month or so.

 

[redsquirrel]

So May is obviously gonna try and get this deal through and it doesn't look like anyone is gonna act against her for now.
...

Am I missing something? What's going on here?

She thinks that as the deadline approaches many of the spineless pricks that inhabit the HoC will back this deal (or something very like) because the whips will twist arms, and a number of MPs will either don't want no deal or don't want a continuation of A50. As a tactic it's not unreasonable (from her perspective).