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The Express is not frothing at the mouth as much as I expected. The Mail seems to backing May. I know that Dacre left the Mail, but why is the Express going soft on Brexit?
 
Why do you think scum like Mogg are so for it, will it damage their business?

It’s the poking their nose in his business the likes of him don’t like. There is a (admittedly not particularly strong) push within the EU to apply more scrutiny to tax havens due to the drain on public finances etc. The likes of Mogg, Banks etc. don’t want a light shining in some of the places they keep their cash. Some of the ‘web giants’ are also not too keen on EU policy on monopolies and taxation that could affect their business.
 
No, nor have I read the Twitter thread.

As you apparently have, I thought perhaps you might answer my specific question, but if it's too much trouble I'll just have to cope somehow
Remember the days when people came to P&P and were told to get their finger out and do something themselves?

Anyway she was refused because she put a wrong digit from her credit card on her application, they didn't contact her they just denied the application. (if it's the one I remember, there are loads of them)

Here's something else from cupid's link.

EEA Permanent Residence Refused? - DavidsonMorris Solicitors
 
WRT records and evidence ( cannot comment on windrysh specifically) the mandate given to department was to reject everything at the first stage for basically any reason whatsoever to keep the numbers going through to consideration at s bare minimum. There was no time-allowed to take a holistic view of each bundle of info - this is directly from the desk of May. Senior civil servants were tasked with reducing the through traffic to a criminal level
 
WRT records and evidence ( cannot comment on windrysh specifically) the mandate given to department was to reject everything at the first stage for basically any reason whatsoever to keep the numbers going through to consideration at s bare minimum. There was no time-allowed to take a holistic view of each bundle of info - this is directly from the desk of May. Senior civil servants were tasked with reducing the through traffic to a criminal level
And anyone feeling any kind of twinge of sympathy for May over anything should remember this. Fuck her. Nasty piece of shit.
 
I don't agree with you about the main problem. The main problem was a home office, run by May, aggressively seeking to fulfill quotas for deportations so going for anyone they could get to do so, regardless of the disgusting injustice they were perpetrating and the lives they were ruining. That kind of thing can very easily happen again. The precise mechanism they use to go after people may change, but the central main problem will be the same. last time it was paper records that went missing. Next time it could be digital records that go missing.
Definitely. A lot of people had some paperwork and other supporting evidence but it was willfully ignored.
WRT records and evidence ( cannot comment on windrysh specifically) the mandate given to department was to reject everything at the first stage for basically any reason whatsoever to keep the numbers going through to consideration at s bare minimum. There was no time-allowed to take a holistic view of each bundle of info - this is directly from the desk of May. Senior civil servants were tasked with reducing the through traffic to a criminal level
talking of "criminal level"
Windrush victims classed as criminals in government blunder
 
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A 'remainer' Brexit secretary! that would be properly LOL...and May's final nail I'd imagine.

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apparently they haven't got enough names for a no-confidence vote. So ERG lot tipping winks to journos who eagerly lapped it up - and now they look a bit fucking stupid.
 
Seriously though. The ERG don't have the numbers. The westminster lobby are so desperate for rolling content they're repeat any old shit that steve baker whatsapps them.

If discussion of ongoing political stories here and elsewhere is just repeating uncritically the bollocks lobby journalists repeat uncritically from the ERG, even when it's been shown time and time again to be bollocks, then there's no reason for it to stop.
 
Seriously though. The ERG don't have the numbers. The westminster lobby are so desperate for rolling content they're repeat any old shit that steve baker whatsapps them.

If discussion of ongoing political stories here and elsewhere is just repeating uncritically the bollocks lobby journalists repeat uncritically from the ERG, even when it's been shown time and time again to be bollocks, then there's no reason for it to stop.
One of the very, very many reasons I stopped looking at Twitter is that it’s just more reliable to wait and see what actually happens than trying to get the “early dirt” that turns out to have been utter nonsense.
 
One of the very, very many reasons I stopped looking at Twitter is that it’s just more reliable to wait and see what actually happens than trying to get the “early dirt” that turns out to have been utter nonsense.
you can see all the nonsense here anyway.

it's easy enough to filter anyway, just ignore any tweet from a journalist that starts with 'I'm Hearing...' or 'Senior backbench sources say...'
 
apparently they haven't got enough names for a no-confidence vote. So ERG lot tipping winks to journos who eagerly lapped it up - and now they look a bit fucking stupid.
That sounds about right - this should have happened by now after their spiritual leader, the Dalai Mogger, made the call yesterday. My pure guess is that there would have been 48 by now if there had been more momentum yesterday, particularly if gove and morduant had resigned. Basically, tory mps are self interested sheep. Suppose it goes to the weekend now and the mythical 'soundings' with their Association Chairs. But yeah, it hasn't happened now and we are probably in a process whereby pure inertia leads to a situation where the majority of tories along with a few Labour brexiteers get the deal through. May's chief task is to keep it a 'take it or leave it' thing. Being forced to go back and get a bit more from the EU is her nightmare scenario - and also one in which she is dancing to gove's tune.
 
BBC website has a list of 21 Tory MPs who have said they have sent the letter of no confidence, ie less than half what's needed
 
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