Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[friedaweed]

Any more leaks and we will know how many Rich Tea biccies were eaten.

Quite enjoying that twatter stuff tonight

 

[paolo]

No end date for transition period.

Sorry to be geeky pedant... if you're referencing the published text... any chance of a page number or article number? (I suffer from insomnia )

 

[paolo]

Quite enjoying that twatter stuff tonight

This shit show has been filling satirical comedy for months now.

 

[MickiQ]

Seems that:

Civil servants told to stop including DUP in Brexit emails as partnership with Conservatives crumbles

Oops.

Tomorrow promises to be an interesting day

 

[Ranbay]

Sorry to be geeky pedant... if you're referencing the published text... any chance of a page number or article number? (I suffer from insomnia )

Was on spazzbook

 

[Sasaferrato]

Oh man I hope I'm misreading this. If you've not got five years under your belt, goodbye? (This is all reciprocal, obvs)

"1. Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals, and their respective family members, who have resided legally in the host State in accordance with Union law for a continuous period of 5 years or for the period specified in Article 17 of Directive 2004/38/EC, shall have the right to reside permanently in the host State under the conditions set out in Articles 16, 17 and 18 of Directive 2004/38/EC. Periods of legal residence or work in accordance with Union law before and after the end of the transition period shall be included in the calculation of the qualifying period necessary for acquisition of the right of permanent residence.
"

Hmmm. Now thinking this through.

I think an earlier clause says you can't be chucked out if you arrive before the end of the transition period. But at the same time you don't get permanent rights until after five years.

This isn't as bad as I thought. My European mates who've arrived in the last few years will have to stick it out for a bit, but they will eventually allowed to stay properly.

Why would they? Who in their right mind wants to come here at the moment? What a fucking shambles.

Remember also, the Commons hasn't 'had at it' yet.

 

[paolo]

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Was on spazzbook

For the benefit of the audience - yep, that's in the actual published text.

Rees Mogg / Davis / Johnson / Gove etc etc are going to *hate* this.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Someone outside is letting off fireworks. They must be delighted

 

[paolo]

Someone outside is letting off fireworks. They must be delighted

Speed readers!

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Someone outside is letting off fireworks. They must be delighted

Is brexit all over now then?

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Oh fuck, the fireworks just reminded me, Independence Day is gonna be a thing, isn't it?

 

[SpackleFrog]

No end date for transition period.

I think you'll find it says in the year of Our Lord 20XX

 

[Kaka Tim]

I think you'll find it says in the year of Our Lord 20XX

20XX = 2020 Obviously. As part of the deal the uk has agreed to use a numerical system that combines standard form with roman numerals. (page 23VI paragraph V)

 

[1%er]

Did I really hear on the radio what I thought I heard, did Theresa May really just say "When you strip away the detail, the choice before us is clear, this deal, or leave with no deal, or no Brexit at all”? What happened to Brexit means Brexit? It could have been miss-translated I guess but that is how her speech was voiced-over here. Looks like someone is laying the ground for something

I also heard someone claiming that if the reports of the details of the deal are true the UK will be in a worse position than Albania with the EU. Well done the civil servants and politicians of the UK, you appear to have negotiated the worse possible deal.

I guess it easy to laugh from the other-side of the world, but laughing I am

You've only got May and the EU to worry about, we have Bolsonaro and he doesn't look like he will be a laugh a minute, but hay-ho life goes on

 

[bemused]

Those who voted for the Norway type deal must feel smug.

 

[CRI]

How about this version, from the Lemon Press. Makes about as much sense!

Alphabetical Draft Withdrawal Agreement

 

[bellaozzydog]

Have we taken back control yet?



Sorry been on planes all day. Tell me it’s all good

 

[SpackleFrog]

Those who voted for the Norway type deal must feel smug.

Yup

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Mr Retro]

 

[Kaka Tim]

Those who voted for the Norway type deal must feel smug.

If this deal gets through the commons. which it absolutely wont.

 

[SpackleFrog]

If this deal gets through the commons. which it absolutely wont.

I dunno if we're right and this really is Norway until 20XX I think a lot of Labour MP's will vote for it.

So I'll be but at the same time

 

[bemused]

If this deal gets through the commons. which it absolutely wont.

I can't see the Tory party getting around with changing leader, getting a new deal or being allowed to push through a no deal - excellent shitshow for the next few days.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I can't see the Tory party getting around with changing leader, getting a new deal or being allowed to push through a no deal - excellent shitshow for the next few days.

See? Isn't Brexit great? We told you you'd love it.

 

[bemused]

[..] I think a lot of Labour MP's will vote for it.

If I was a Labour MP I'd vote the sucker through in a heartbeat to watch the other lot tear themselves to pieces in the hope Rees-Mogg as PM. Win-win.

 

[Dr. Furface]

Did I really hear on the radio what I thought I heard, did Theresa May really just say "When you strip away the detail, the choice before us is clear, this deal, or leave with no deal, or no Brexit at all”? What happened to Brexit means Brexit? It could have been miss-translated I guess but that is how her speech was voiced-over here. Looks like someone is laying the ground for something

You heard correctly - that’s what she said outside no.10. Probably dropped it in as a way of saying to Brexiteers that if they don’t back her deal then it’s possible their gamble will backfire, though it won’t change any of their minds obvs.

 

[SpackleFrog]

If I was a Labour MP I'd vote the sucker through in a heartbeat to watch the other lot tear themselves to pieces in the hope Rees-Mogg as PM. Win-win.

It's a good job you're not a Labour MP then! Wouldn't a Labour govt be better?

 

[paolo]

I dunno if we're right and this really is Norway until 20XX I think a lot of Labour MP's will vote for it.

So I'll be but at the same time

It’s possible we’ll drag on, and on, and on, until we - either “side” - lose all fight whatsoever and the British default demeanour kicks in.

We look at the overcast skies, and mentally shrug. “Not happy about it... but what can you do?”

 

[paolo]

The majority of union members in the top three unions, supporting remain.

The recent Survation poll with the country being 56 - 44 remain.

In the same poll, Wales turning remain, leaving, largely, only England non metro areas as leave.

In the same poll again, the most common demographic for leave was a 75 year old white male. The most common demographic for a remain supporter was a young black female.

Corbyn, had he wanted, would have had a massive open goal on this, I believe.

He’d have had to wind back some of his principles, and I guess that’s the thing about principles. You don’t wind them back for political expediency.

 

[Wookey]

Did I really hear on the radio what I thought I heard, did Theresa May really just say "When you strip away the detail, the choice before us is clear, this deal, or leave with no deal, or no Brexit at all”? What happened to Brexit means Brexit? It could have been miss-translated I guess but that is how her speech was voiced-over here. Looks like someone is laying the ground for something

I also heard someone claiming that if the reports of the details of the deal are true the UK will be in a worse position than Albania with the EU. Well done the civil servants and politicians of the UK, you appear to have negotiated the worse possible deal.

I guess it easy to laugh from the other-side of the world, but laughing I am

You've only got May and the EU to worry about, we have Bolsonaro and he doesn't look like he will be a laugh a minute, but hay-ho life goes on

Yep, that's exactly what she said. And I'm with Dr. Furface on the analysis.