8ball
Decolonise colons!
Tl;dr
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Tl;dr
blimey how did you spot that so quickly?
You ought to read it, horribly legalise as it is.
It's very significant vs Corbyn's views.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I didn't, just thought that was a likely area where they would roll over.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
What’s it saying? I’m knackered and can’t be arsed to translate the legalise
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Here's the bit about extending the "temporary" transition period. There's provision there for "temporary" to be until the end of 2099
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's saying may's cocked it upWhat’s it saying? I’m knackered and can’t be arsed to translate the legalise
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
8ball
Decolonise colons!
<kicks at the ground in sullen manner and looks at post...>
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Also, from her statement:
3 choices now eh?
3 choices now eh?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
What’s it saying? I’m knackered and can’t be arsed to translate the legalise
Basically HMG will establish, fund and staff a politically independent body that will take on all the powers of the European Commission with regards to state aid and will examine on a case by case basis whether something potentially affecting cross-border trade is state aid and whether it would be illegal state aid under EU law. They will then tell the EU. The only exception is for agriculture, and even then its up to an agreed amount.
The potential for mischief is absolutely immense; such a body could concievably interfere in anything the Government wants to do.
Oh man I hope I'm misreading this. If you've not got five years under your belt, goodbye? (This is all reciprocal, obvs)
"1. Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals, and their respective family members, who have resided legally in the host State in accordance with Union law for a continuous period of 5 years or for the period specified in Article 17 of Directive 2004/38/EC, shall have the right to reside permanently in the host State under the conditions set out in Articles 16, 17 and 18 of Directive 2004/38/EC. Periods of legal residence or work in accordance with Union law before and after the end of the transition period shall be included in the calculation of the qualifying period necessary for acquisition of the right of permanent residence.
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Hmmm. Now thinking this through.
I think an earlier clause says you can't be chucked out if you arrive before the end of the transition period. But at the same time you don't get permanent rights until after five years.
This isn't as bad as I thought. My European mates who've arrived in the last few years will have to stick it out for a bit, but they will eventually allowed to stay properly.
"1. Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals, and their respective family members, who have resided legally in the host State in accordance with Union law for a continuous period of 5 years or for the period specified in Article 17 of Directive 2004/38/EC, shall have the right to reside permanently in the host State under the conditions set out in Articles 16, 17 and 18 of Directive 2004/38/EC. Periods of legal residence or work in accordance with Union law before and after the end of the transition period shall be included in the calculation of the qualifying period necessary for acquisition of the right of permanent residence.
"
Hmmm. Now thinking this through.
I think an earlier clause says you can't be chucked out if you arrive before the end of the transition period. But at the same time you don't get permanent rights until after five years.
This isn't as bad as I thought. My European mates who've arrived in the last few years will have to stick it out for a bit, but they will eventually allowed to stay properly.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
oh look, exactly the sort of thing left out voters were told isn't on the EU's radar with a suggestion that perhaps if we feared thus we didn't understand what the EU is for. Now, to business: how is this the fault of Corbyn, 500 wrds pls
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Everything is the fault of corbyn
Do I have to? My back is playing up!
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Anorak.
State aid has always been an EU no no.
They've been very clear about this.
Corbyn has been very clear about his objection.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
According to this Nationalisation is not against EU law. Let’s be clear, nationalisation is NOT against EU law
teqniq
DisMembered
Amazing how the French get away with all sorts, related to defence, power etc.
There are national security exemptions for all this stuff, that the brits have never taken advantage of.
Alex
You can have government owned stuff. But the general rule is you have to put it out to tender, and the state can pitch alongside private enterprise.
The UK put loads of railways out to tender, and European governments snapped several up. Government owned, by EU governments, completely legal in EU terms.
The UK has, so far, banned *only* the UK government from the railways, not the EU governments.
(Corbyn, we know, wants to reverse this).
The French have wriggled to stay in position (they're good at wriggling), meanwhile the British charged into privatisation obsession, with *nobody* in the EU following. How many rail companies do we have?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
National interest included bribing Ryanair to fly to a regional airport, when it went sour and Ryanair pulled out France grasses Ryanair and impounds a plane to cover the cost of the fallout.
Viva Le EU!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
If I read correctly it'll be down to the ECJ to decide on disputes over state aid rules. So forget it basically. I'm slightly baffled by the EU proposal to have us set up an independent watch on these matters being greeted with 'hey this blog reading of the rules says'
this caught my eye today.
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