Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
I shouldn't have laughed at that but I did
My Polish grandfather came to the UK and engineered for the RAF so they could fly. How times change.
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Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
What, or else the EU airlines won't be able to cross the Atlantic? Boo-fucking-hoo. Junker's a prat.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
do you not think that the EU should consider its own interests in this? do you think that if the EU refuses to recognise the UK's competancy, the UK will not recognise the EU's competancy and ban EU flights from UK air space?
the UK is perfectly happy to recognise the EU's regulatory framework, yet the EU seems unwilling to do likewise. 'lets stay in the EU' is not the message i'm getting here...
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Did Jean-Claude not mention, NATS controls roughly this area:
Better tell Lufthansa to amend their schedules.
The reciprocal landing rights thing should be relatively trivial to resolve. Way less complicated, way less contentious than stuff like goods.
It’s true that airlines based here could lose the right for intra-EU flights, but again there’s ways round that with establishing EU based operations companies.
It’s true that airlines based here could lose the right for intra-EU flights, but again there’s ways round that with establishing EU based operations companies.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Such as all UK airlines that operate intra-European flights already have in place, and had done since way before June 2016...
Getting daft now.
ATC has no political dimension, just fee structures for passing through.
The European body that does the charging, and then distributes the fees to members, covers a fair of non EU countries.
Juncker is indeed being a dick on this.
Quite. Maybe some will have to do some tweaks, but yeah - aviation will be very resistant to getting sucked into the shitshow.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Quite.
If the worst thing he can come up with is this nonsense, it seems quite clear that the only real obstacle to Brexit is the EU.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
I voted Leave you muppet. And you're lying - there's no awkward silence, the question is fielded and answered. The answers aren't great but then neither was the question and to be honest I don't expect much from Tories.
There’s some things that are EU related that are challenging, and some things that aren’t - because they’re not really much to do with the EU.
Conflating both, to then say *everything* will disaster is just as bad as conflating both, to then say *everything* will be easy.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
What there is a prospect we would stop the traffic?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
We have not suggested that, cos we're not petty minded pillocks trying to whip up some kind of panic over nothing.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
It would help if our Govt proposed a workable deal then and all the daftness could be dispensed with.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
theres been some EU briefing that the EU would be 'forced' to de-recognise UK competancy in enforcing EU wide (which the UK mostly wrote) directives on airport security (stuff like who gets airside, luggage screening etc..), and that as a tragic consequence flights originating from the UK could not cross EU controlled airspace because they might blow up.
the very obvious flaw being that if they decide that they can't trust the UK procedures because the EU and UK don't have a joint regulatary framework, we'll probably decide that we can't trust EU procedures because the UK and EU don't have a joint regulatory framework - which means flights originating in Ireland are going to a take a reeeeeaaaaally long time to get to the European manland, and trans-atlantic flights from the European mainland are going to use a lot more fuel than they do now.
they did. the EU replied with its standard 'nothing is agreed until everything is agreed'. you know, like they did on citizens rights...
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You would think so, but as has been shown repeatedly, the EU is not interested in any kind of deal, regardless of the fact that May is making a complete dog's dinner of it.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
True - and you can't have bendy ones.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Yet Romania, fucking tip-top
well indeed...
i'm reminded of the wailing over the whether the EU would be able to sell Insulin to the UK post-Brexit, because of a lack of a joint regulatory framework. its fine to sell it to some shit-arse tip of a place like fucking Venezeula of course, but not the UK, because, you know, thicky racists...
gosub
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Why,? they are covered by Chicago convention
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
gosub
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We'd be breaking International Law if we stopped them over flying
SpackleFrog There’s no such thing as EU controlled airspace.
EuroControl isn’t in any material sense an EU body, and it doesn’t do ATC.
EuroControl isn’t in any material sense an EU body, and it doesn’t do ATC.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Did I say there was? Or anything about airspace?
I'm terrified of flying so I endeavour to know as little as possible about it and to fly as little as possible!
gosub
~#
EASA is a EUropean body, and all our certification and therefore insurance would be invalid
I was specifically addressing the control of airspace.
EuroControl has 41 members. We don’t leave it by leaving the EU.
On EASA, fair enough, I’ll take your word for it. I don’t have knowledge on that.
Supine
Newt Member
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
are you planning to move there?
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