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Will we have a brexit?


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I think I read today that it is proposed to move Marmite production to Holland.
People will either love or hate that news I suppose.
Nice joke, but the story isn't so simple and the move isn't quite decided yet

Unilever relocation plan rejected by major shareholder
One of the top shareholders in Unilever has said it will vote against the firm's plan to move its headquarters to the Netherlands, amid growing investor concern about the plan. Aviva Investors told the BBC the move could force UK shareholders to sell their shares and offered "no upside". Unilever, which makes Marmite and Dove soap, is relocating to simplify its corporate structure.
The reason given for the resistance to moving may be relevant to the general panic that many multi-nationals will 'abandon Britain' post Brexit
The company is one of the biggest firms in the UK's FTSE 100 share index with a market value of about £124bn. However, under UK rules it would no longer be eligible for inclusion in the FTSE 100 in London after the proposed change. Shareholders fear this would cause a rush for the exits to sell the stock, leading to losses.
 
unliver is also under hostile TO pressure- Holland can offer greater comfort for them. fuck knows what the UK regime will be like after brexit- wild west is not unimaginablke
Whether or not it's unimaginable, the idea that the UK regime will suddenly turn into the wild west after the civilizing hand of the EU is removed is nonsensical panic based on nothing.

I hope Pickman's model isn't putting all his post-Brexit investment eggs in the wild west basket...
 
Whether or not it's unimaginable, the idea that the UK regime will suddenly turn into the wild west after the civilizing hand of the EU is removed is nonsensical panic based on nothing.

Yeah, everyone just calm down and retain your faith in the incorruptible British state.
 
How will voting remain help Greece ?

I can’t remember anyone here - or elsewhere for that matter - saying they were voting remain because of what happened to Greece.

One could level an accusation that they are, because of that, callously indifferent, but nonetheless the Greece justification is not one they’ve ever laid claim to.
 
I can’t remember anyone here - or elsewhere for that matter - saying they were voting remain because of what happened to Greece.

One could level an accusation that they are, because of that, callously indifferent, but nonetheless the Greece justification is not one they’ve ever laid claim to.
I've yet to see anyone explain how the UK leaving the EU helps Greece.
 
I've yet to see anyone explain how the UK leaving the EU helps Greece.

I think there's a reasonable argument to be made that reducing the EU's total economic clout by around 1/7th, halving its number of UNSC P5 seats, and reducing its military expeditionary capability by about 35% could hardly be described is an insignificant dent in its power and influence - however the truth for Greece is that the EU has a great deal of power over Greece because Greece says it does.

Greece could leave the Euro, it could leave the EU - though they would not be painless options - but Greece chooses not to exercise them, nor to threaten to use them.
 
It’s never been stated. Maybe that was never the motivation.

My assumption, in good faith, is that it’s voting leave on principal because of what happened with Greece.

Actually did spend quite a bit of time explaining how an EFTA style leave would lead to more targeted money to Greece at the expense of subsidising French agricultue
 
Brexit or Bremain - Urban votes

can find 5 posts from me just searching Norway Grants could search harder, but it was said, and said at a time it needed to be [still think its the right move - shame losing side went down the route of insult people and demand they change their mind.]
 
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I've yet to see anyone explain why they in principle want to remain a part of a supranational institution that as a matter of policy punishes countries financially to such an extent that the suicide rate soars.
I've yet to see you explain anything at all on this thread.
 
I've yet to see you explain anything at all on this thread.
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