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Will we have a brexit?


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I'll get it myself it'll be more trustworthy.

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British citizens resident in the UK and travelling on a British passport are entitled to limited subsidised health services from Medicare for medically necessary treatment while visiting Australia. This does not cover pre-existing conditions, or treatment that does not require prompt attention.
Other exclusions under the reciprocal agreement include pharmaceuticals when not a hospital in-patient, use of ambulance services and medical evacuations, which are very expensive.
 
I'll get it myself it'll be more trustworthy.

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Serbia and Montenegro are more generous to be fair.

What’s the two up with bags cost to either of those? Got to be cheap, flights with a stag or hen do, bang on really. Give it a few years, and we’ll have all the Brit facilities my parents would love. Couple of bars with Sky screens, and somewhere round the back to have a slash.
 
Serbia and Montenegro are more generous to be fair.
There is a reciprocal healthcare agreement for British nationals visiting Serbia, which entitles you to free treatment for genuine emergencies.
The health system in all parts of Serbia is suffering from widespread shortage of medicines and other essentials. For non-emergency treatment, or treatment that isn’t covered under reciprocal arrangements, payment in cash is normally required.
 
kabbes Sorry, going to be boring and back on topic, but something you said a month back has had me pondering. “The Irish border is for the EU to fix”.

I’ve been agonising over this.

I wonder... if we did cliff edge... what would happen if:

UK then says we’ll, erm, not turn up. No UK officials, no border force, no signs.

It could be dressed up as some bollocks. “Temporary non enforcement policy”

With no set end date. Just sit it out. Mental brexiteers would have little capital (who wants a border in Ireland). The EU wouldn’t dare make the first move on a blockade.

Thinking out loud here. (I voted remain, like nobody guessed that already :) )
 
kabbes Sorry, going to be boring and back on topic, but something you said a month back has had me pondering. “The Irish border is for the EU to fix”.

I’ve been agonising over this.

I wonder... if we did cliff edge... what would happen if:

UK then says we’ll, erm, not turn up. No UK officials, no border force, no signs.

It could be dressed up as some bollocks. “Temporary non enforcement policy”

With no set end date. Just sit it out. Mental brexiteers would have little capital (who wants a border in Ireland). The EU wouldn’t dare make the first move on a blockade.

Thinking out loud here. (I voted remain, like nobody guessed that already :) )
Well, quite. You have to think outside the paradigm that has been set by somebody else. Who says we have to man and patrol a border? Somebody else? What makes them the setter of our rules?
 
Well, quite. You have to think outside the paradigm that has been set by somebody else. Who says we have to man and patrol a border? Somebody else? What makes them the setter of our rules?

I’m beginning to think that, if we do fall off the cliff, that’s the option.

Stand back.

You enforce it if you want. We won’t. The DUP will moan like fuck, but even propping up the Government, I can’t see the gov deciding to placate them with a border enforced Ireland.
 
Well, quite. You have to think outside the paradigm that has been set by somebody else. Who says we have to man and patrol a border? Somebody else? What makes them the setter of our rules?

Arguably we set the paradigm with the Good Friday Agreement, but overall yes. The UK can technically just fail to turn up. Oops, sorry, we were busy. Oh *that* border? Yeah erm, maybe next Thursday or something?
 
Bottom line is Lord Nelson has been dead over 200 years. Team GB is not under any circumstances going to enter into a war of nerves with the EU and come out smiling.

FWIW, I think in a no deal scenario, neither the UK or the EU would enforce the border, but only because the situation would not be regarded as sustainable by either side and so it would not be considered worth the infrastructure investment.
 
Well, quite. You have to think outside the paradigm that has been set by somebody else. Who says we have to man and patrol a border? Somebody else? What makes them the setter of our rules?

you know we will still (we* being the republic of Ireland) be part of the Schengen Agreement

does Eire have to pat to patrol the border

:hmm:
 
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