Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Kaka Tim]

Some may be - the nuclear stuff is a genuine issue for all concerned, as is medicines, and the financial stuff like pensions and health insurance, but will the sky fall in if we can't get Feta or melons for 3 months?

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but loads of our trade is intricately linked with the EU - which is why the UK is the 6th largest economy. Loads of manufacturers produce stuff which is part of an EU wide manufacturing process (cars especially - but also loads of the uk's light engineering) - how the fuck do you unpick that ? Manufacturers would have either have to pay more for the stuff they trade to the EU or find other suppliers. And food prices would surely go up - its not just feta - its flour and yeast for bread, vegetable oil, huge amounts of fruit and veg, fertiliser, pesticides, animal feed - this is all stuff we import in huge quantities from the EU.
I really dont think its a scare story to predict a crashing out with not deal will see higher prices, job losses and a fuck load of unforeseen problems because 45 years of an increasingly integrated, mind boggling complex economic relationship has just been torched without anything being put in its place.

 

[Raheem]

Calm down, not a feta compli just yet.

Gouda thing too.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Won't prices go up - as they have done already - because the pound will (almost certainly) go down and import prices will go up and we import the majority of our food.

The Governemnt says itself that it's taking measures that could be fairly construed as food stockpiling (or facilitating it, at least).

I can't see shortages other than on a local scale: my local shop runs out of bread and milk in about an hour if heavy snow is forecast! Not everyone can drive to a supermarket or walk to the next store...

 

[Kaka Tim]

What about all the talk of food shortages and price rises and stockpiling, surely a bit apocalyptic?

like i say - enough panic and that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Although price rises is a nailed on certainty.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Calm down, not a feta compli just yet.

dont you Brie-leave it ...

 

[Toast Rider]

like i say - enough panic and that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Although price rises is a nailed on certainty.

what sort of increased do we think are likely?

 

[JimW]

I wish to apologise for any cheese-based punning I may have quite deliberately started and tender my resignation forthwith.

 

[Kaka Tim]

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[mojo pixy]

NO FETA!?!?

I agree, it is a bit salty.
Oh cheesy puns. It was ne ferment to be this way.

 

[MightyTibberton]

I suppose amounts will depend on the drop in the pound and the extent of disruptions at borders, and maybe how well the government has filled warehouses full of tinned pilchards. I might watch one of those war-time cooking programmes to see how to get by on rations.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Has anyone done a "we were healthier and happier then" article anywhere yet? If not, they will.

 

[gosub]

I predict a riot: Amazon UK chief foresees 'civil unrest' for no-deal Brexit • The Register Forums

He's wrong, as it currently stands the unrest will be EUrope wide.

Stop the clock. We have learned what you don't know and don't know how to find out.

New balls please.

 

[teqniq]

Brexit department downgraded as May says Cabinet Office now in charge of negotiations - Politics live

 

[Raheem]

I wish to apologise for any cheese-based punning I may have quite deliberately started and tender my resignation forthwith.

Halloumi to be the first to wish you well for the future.

 

[mojo pixy]

I mentioned this somewhere upthread, one of the foodstuffs we're nationally self-sufficient in is cheese. Reckon we can just swap some Wensleydale or Cheshire for all the Feta we want.

Plus they make Feta in ten thousand places outside the EU so on reflection, one way or another we'll be fine for salty milk curds.

And cider.

 

[Toast Rider]

Hope the price of cheese doesn't rise

 

[Ted Striker]

 

[kebabking]

What about all the talk of food shortages and price rises and stockpiling, surely a bit apocalyptic?

Walk into your local supermarket and see where all the fruit comes from, and ask yourself if Spain and Portugal, already with crippling unemployment, are going to be happy to see their farm produce rot in the fields in order to punish the UK for deciding it no longer wishes to be part of the club..

The UK is 1/7th of all economic activity in the EU, and lots of that is food.

 

[agricola]

Walk into your local supermarket and see where all the fruit comes from, and ask yourself if Spain and Portugal, already with crippling unemployment, are going to be happy to see their farm produce rot in the fields in order to punish the UK for deciding it no longer wishes to be part of the club..

The UK is 1/7th of all economic activity in the EU, and lots of that is food.

Indeed, but then again our government is involved.

 

[mojo pixy]

It's OK, we're fully paid up members of the International Red Cross. They won't let us starve

 

[Raheem]

It's OK, we're fully paid up members of the International Red Cross. They won't let us starve

Sure, but what happens if the first feta drop takes more than a few days to organise?

 

[kebabking]

Sure, but what happens if the first feta drop takes more than a few days to organise?

Don't worry, we'll just shoot all the Londoners and render their fatuous corpses down to make British Feta...

 

[mojo pixy]

Capital Brawn, ltd.

 

[JimW]

No shortage of gammon

 

[Kaka Tim]

economics prof jonathan portes' take on likely outcomes - seems a fairly sobre assessment -

Deal, no deal, or extension? - UK in a changing Europe

 

[Raheem]

Don't worry, we'll just shoot all the Londoners and render their fatuous corpses down to make British Feta...

Wouldn't be proper feta, though, whatever they put on the label. At best, it would be Greek-style cheese substitute. It would just lie unopened in the streets.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Walk into your local supermarket and see where all the fruit comes from, and ask yourself if Spain and Portugal, already with crippling unemployment, are going to be happy to see their farm produce rot in the fields in order to punish the UK for deciding it no longer wishes to be part of the club..

The UK is 1/7th of all economic activity in the EU, and lots of that is food.

like the german car industry wont allow it either? The EU will be hurt by hard brexit - but not nearly as much as the UK. The EU27 see political cost of allowing the UK to have cake as far greater than the economic disruption - they would much rather bale out spanish farmers (and greek feta producers) than give the uk a deal which would undermine the fundamental principles of the EU.
please point me to any hint of any pressure from any of the EU27 to climb down on this. Plus - their own voters will be very much in the "the brits can go fuck themselves" camp.

 

[Smangus]

Dig for victory folks!

 

[Raheem]

Dig for victory folks!

And be sure to fork everything up by mid-autumn.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Well, no. Not nothing. But French customs and immigration staff are not going to be told to just ignore the law from Brexit onwards. It's pointless believing in a fantasy.

If you go back and read my post, instead of being a tool, you'll see I was talking about a scenario in which customs and immigration staff receive no instructions to do their jobs differently.