Is Brexit actually going to happen?
- Thread starter Kaka Tim
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Interesting discussion this although why we have to rely on RT do host something like this rather than do it ourselves is beyond me
Grandparents of Brexit
Grandparents of Brexit
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Inconstant M&M
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Rascally revels
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Scallywag Snicker.
andysays
Love and solidarity
ska invita
back on the other side
having thought about it I take back my comments completely - you're right, its a new UK press low. My barometer got out of whack for a minute there....all becoming too normalised. Yes the Sun are 'just reporting what was being said', but its a complicit and goading reporting which revels in Trumps poison and actively wants the poison to spread.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Hard brexit/no deal now looking extremely likely. Not one thing has been agreed and both the main british parties are split on the subject. Labour MPs voted to help the tories this week (as they do in Scotland regularly). Incredible scenes every week.
Hopefully it's the final spur for Scottish indy. No doubt we can expect strong support from all brexiters
Hopefully it's the final spur for Scottish indy. No doubt we can expect strong support from all brexiters
bemused
Well-Known Member
I've yet to see any practical suggestions what Brexit looks like other than an EFTA type deal. For all the howling from the likes of Mogg and Boris none of them have forwarded a plan, apart from the random halfwit suggesting WTO rules. I'm convinced this is why none of these people are looking to take May's job, they all know deep down it's going to be a shitshow whatever happens.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Pretty much, nobody wants to be responsible for the clusterfuck and everyone's getting ready for post Brexit cleanup .
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
this seems like a fairly clear headed assessment of what might unfold brexit-wise over the next 6 months from "the federal trust" (who i have never heard of but have been around since 1945 and was founded by william beveridge).
Their conclusion to the question of whats going to happen is - essentially - choose your clusterfuck from a range of options.
Brexit: Heading to a Deal or No Deal while UK politics implodes? | The Federal Trust
Their conclusion to the question of whats going to happen is - essentially - choose your clusterfuck from a range of options.
Brexit: Heading to a Deal or No Deal while UK politics implodes? | The Federal Trust
ska invita
back on the other side
Any links for what SNP figures are currently saying about No Deal?Hard brexit/no deal now looking extremely likely. Not one thing has been agreed and both the main british parties are split on the subject. Labour MPs voted to help the tories this week (as they do in Scotland regularly). Incredible scenes every week.
Hopefully it's the final spur for Scottish indy. No doubt we can expect strong support from all brexiters
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
So the EFTA people look at the UK's relationship with Europe...constant demands, constant complaints and then fuck the rest of them over by leaving when it suits them.
Then the EFTA people say...oh yeah, they can join us now, that'll work out fine.
ska invita
back on the other side
this looks quite useful to Parliament and the Brexit deal
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
They've bent over backwards to facilitate the softest possible brexit (a brave move that seems to be paying off indy-wise).
It's a different world up here ska invita and most indies are strongly against brexit (Scotland voted over 60% to remain and has had very different relationships with Euro countries). Brexit is being used to steal more powers from the Scottish parliament. Huge up here, not mentioned down south. Like I said it's a different world.
You can check out their twitter feeds by googling snp twitter or some such. I'm going out but can link some later if you like.
gosub
~#
The problem with EFTA is the size of the UK in relation to the other members even England on its own will be a difficult fitSo the EFTA people look at the UK's relationship with Europe...constant demands, constant complaints and then fuck the rest of them over by leaving when it suits them.
Then the EFTA people say...oh yeah, they can join us now, that'll work out fine.
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not-bono-ever
meh
EFTA could be the ideal base from which a stabilised UK could start to rebuild its reputation and once again be the big fish in a small pond
That however is far too sensible for us to seriously consider
That however is far too sensible for us to seriously consider
2hats
Dust.
Will be a lot easier to accommodate after several years of economic erosion and Scottish independence.
bemused
Well-Known Member
So the EFTA people look at the UK's relationship with Europe...constant demands, constant complaints and then fuck the rest of them over by leaving when it suits them.
Then the EFTA people say...oh yeah, they can join us now, that'll work out fine.
I won't pretend to understand international trade, although if I say that too much I'll probably end up offered a gig in the government policy unit, but - I assume any free trade agreement between the EU and UK will have some sort of common standards; the so-called rule book. I guess EFTA have this type of agreement?
The only other thing that seems to be missing is the free movement problem.
However, I doubt the headbangers are going to vote for any simple solution.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
EFTA mandates free movement of people, the reddest of red lines, so...
magneze
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
That prick couldn’t approve his kids’ school reports without writing a load of snide, liberal bollocks.
magneze
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That's as maybe, did you read it?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I have now. Would you care to change “pretty reasonable article” to “batshit lunatic rant”, or do you truly agree with that dick’s analysis of the present situation?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
“In reality, everyone knowledgeable about Brexit agrees on what will really happen if there is no deal in March. Nothing will change.”
That’s simply not true.
It’s wishful thinking with no evidence. Essentially he is saying that the inevitable outcome of ‘no deal’ is so chaotic that for that reason alone it won’t happen. However he offers no mechanism of how we are going to move from one state to the other.
magneze
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Seems possible. Norway option will come into focus. Mostly thing will carry on as normal. The sky won't fall in.
Made a change from all the rest of the articles promising chaos, no medicine, food etc.
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
No-one is "knowledgeable about Brexit". No-one.
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