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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?


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I don’t subscribe to the FT, perhaps you would be kind enough to quote the bit of WTO regulation that states it is illegal to have a soft border between the UK and Eire? Ta.
It isn't. But unless the UK is in the EU FTA, it then has to have an open border with everyone. Not sure that's particularly desirable.
 
Jesus. Back to all leave voters are racists, how did that pan out for you last time?

I am glad you acknowledge that you are a berk. You understand the etymology of the word, yeah? Cos it really is very fitting for you.

As opposed to your implication that all pro-remain voters approve of exclusionist migration policies. Any chance of any nuance in the debate?
 
I don’t subscribe to the FT, perhaps you would be kind enough to quote the bit of WTO regulation that states it is illegal to have a soft border between the UK and Eire? Ta.

From the article:

As the weeks pass, so the ideas get sillier. One circulating among certain Brexiters at the moment is that the UK could gain the upper hand over the Ireland issue by simply leaving the Irish border open after Brexit, charging no tariffs and making no inspections, and dare the EU to be the first to put up customs posts. Would this actually work in the real world? No, for many reasons. At the most it is likely to be a crude blame-shifting exercise aimed at getting the British public to point the finger at the Irish when the border inevitably goes up.

For a post-Brexit UK to charge no tariffs on imports from the EU would be a massive breach of the rules of the World Trade Organization, which operates on a “most-favoured nation” (MFN) principle of equal treatment. This can be overridden if two or more members sign a formal bilateral or regional trade agreement among themselves. But it will take years for the UK to agree a trade deal with the EU: Britain cannot simply pre-empt it by holding tariffs at zero from the off. If the UK discriminates in this way, it will be vulnerable to widespread litigation in the WTO. This will come at a time when the UK is attempting to regularise its position in the organisation, in which it has hitherto been represented by the EU. The UK is dependent on the goodwill of other WTO members in the tricky question of splitting the EU’s existing commitments on food import quotas. It must also establish its position in the WTO’s government procurement agreement which gives its companies the right to bid for public tenders abroad. Arriving on the scene while creating one of the biggest breaches of WTO law in the organisation’s existence probably isn’t the way to get other countries on side.
 
Now might be the time to buy shares in Stenna and P&O Ferries.

This could make the old booze cruise Dover/Calais Dover/Boulougne crossings look like the Isle of Wight Ferry.
 
Brexit is “a very complex problem”, because there is too much disagreement between different factions of the Conservative party and Labour party about what they should negotiate for with EU, and primary agents of the British economy, they should defend. Some of the functional instruments like Customs Union, single market, and free movement are mutually exclusive with free global trade, and are inalienable in the current relationship. Therefore, UK have to negotiate alternative flexible agreements in these important areas. I think the last item in the agenda the government can ignore is the uncertain future plight of the British industry and chaos in trade barriers in the Brexit negotiations under the pressure of dissenters. There is no difference between, hard Brexit, Brexit, and No deal, as propounded by the many factions opposing the current proposal, which is yet to be perused by and negotiated with the EU.
 
Brexit is “a very complex problem”, because there is too much disagreement between different factions of the Conservative party and Labour party about what they should negotiate for with EU, and primary agents of the British economy, they should defend. Some of the functional instruments like Customs Union, single market, and free movement are mutually exclusive with free global trade, and are inalienable in the current relationship. Therefore, UK have to negotiate alternative flexible agreements in these important areas. I think the last item in the agenda the government can ignore is the uncertain future plight of the British industry and chaos in trade barriers in the Brexit negotiations under the pressure of dissenters. There is no difference between, hard Brexit, Brexit, and No deal, as propounded by the many factions opposing the current proposal, which is yet to be perused by and negotiated with the EU.
Did you post up an answer to your politics homework by mistake?
 
I had felt sure it was Heath who was PM when the EEC referendum happened - but it was Wilson - and it was 1975 - and I went to France on a visitor's passport in 74 and 75 - but then the school exchange had been happening for decades by then ... and the Anglo-French Concord project had started in the late 60s ..

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Yes 17,378,581 67.23%
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No 8,470,073 32.77%
Valid votes 25,848,654 99.79%
Invalid or blank votes 54,540 0.21%
Total votes 25,903,194 100.00%
Registered voters/turnout 40,086,677 64.62%

United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum, 1975 - Wikipedia
 
Party preservation will always take priority over everything else

Laughable shite

I'm past caring about Brexit now, we'll either end up in EFTA or have another vote. I can't see any vote making through Parliment because they'll never get a majority to vote for it.
 
we seem to so embrioled in the petty to me/ to you aspect of brexit jostling, we lose sight that the same awful cunts are still pulling the strings

I dont know, the Parliamentary debate over this is pretty funny. Sir Bernard Jenkin just got heckled by Dominic Grieve whilst Grieve was about four foot away from him.
 
38 degrees (I must have done one of their online things once) has e-mailed me today to ask me to e-mail my MP to ask him to vote a particular way on whatever the heck tomorrow's vote in the commons is.

My (in the sense that I live in the constituency) MP is john redwood.

:facepalm:
 
38 degrees (I must have done one of their online things once) has e-mailed me today to ask me to e-mail my MP to ask him to vote a particular way on whatever the heck tomorrow's vote in the commons is.

My (in the sense that I live in the constituency) MP is john redwood.

:facepalm:

They once asked me to ask my MP to tell Hunt not to be a shithead with the NHS. Hunt’s my MP.
 
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