Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[The39thStep]

Caroline Lucas 2006

The phenomenal projected growth of the aviation industry - the number of flights in the EU is set to double by 2020 and triple by 2030 - represents the fastest-growing contribution to greenhouse gas emissions.

The stratospheric cost of cheap flights

Caroline Lucas 2018 :

Join the camapign for low emission shagging

 

[SpookyFrank]

Mid-life crisis actors?

10/10

 

[cantsin]

I think a lot of people are annoyed with Labour whipping to abstain from votes in the house. Plus 70% of Labour supporters want to remain, so there is bound to be disappointment now the influx of Corbyn's supporters realise that on this issue he is going against the flow of the party.

60% + Lab held constits voted Leave, + if you strip out the ( obviously v Remain ) London seats , that figure increases a fair bit I believe

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

60% + Lab held constits voted Leave, + if you strip out the ( obviously v Remain ) London seats , that figure increases a fair bit I believe

I wonder what it would look like if you just counted those that closed the gap between Labour and Tory. New voters seemed to form a large part of both the brexit vote and the (increased) labour vote iirc? Let’s make Labour shit again!

 

[Supine]

60% + Lab held constits voted Leave, + if you strip out the ( obviously v Remain ) London seats , that figure increases a fair bit I believe

I know and realise it's a problem. The biggest problem though is nobody is educating these people (by a principled data driven opposition to brexit). Brexit will damage a lot of these constituencies disproportionately and imo labour are letting them down by not fighting for them.

Having no party, with a potential to govern, representing the anti brexit position is a failure of democracy.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I know and realise it's a problem. The biggest problem though is nobody is educating these people (by a principled data driven opposition to brexit). Brexit will damage a lot of these constituencies disproportionately and imo labour are letting them down by not fighting for them.

Having no party, with a potential to govern, representing the anti brexit position is a failure of democracy.

Expand on “principled data driven”. Cheers.

 

[teuchter]

Caroline Lucas 2006

The stratospheric cost of cheap flights

Caroline Lucas 2018 :

Join the camapign for low emission shagging

Did you know that you can get to those 27 countries without flying?

 

[Supine]

Expand on “principled data driven”. Cheers.

The negative effects. Like UK growth dropping from top to bottom of the league table. Like lost jobs (EMA is about 900 highly paid technical roles currently being moved to Amsterdam). That kind of stuff, which is going to really start kicking in over the next year or so.

 

[Supine]

Did you know that you can get to those 27 countries without flying?

If you need a quick shag flying is the way to go

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

The negative effects. Like UK growth dropping from top to bottom of the league table. Like lost jobs (EMA is about 900 highly paid technical roles currently being moved to Amsterdam). That kind of stuff, which is going to really start kicking in over the next year or so.

When at top of league table inequality seemed to be worse than ever. Could you explain to me where that sweet spot is when U.K. growth starts to benefit us low education voters, and when in the next 5 years we are likely to hit it if we stay in the EU as you recommend , I would like some principled data as evidence , I am good with numbers so don’t be frightened to fire them at me.

Cheers.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

The negative effects. Like UK growth dropping from top to bottom of the league table. Like lost jobs (EMA is about 900 highly paid technical roles currently being moved to Amsterdam). That kind of stuff, which is going to really start kicking in over the next year or so.

Bonus question- if economic growth is your primary concern, are you sure you should be looking to a Corbyn led Labour Party to represent people like yersel(that’s me being very optimistic about the capabilities of Corbyn led Labour!)

 

[Supine]

I would like some principled data as evidence , I am good with numbers so don’t be frightened to fire them at me.

Cheers.

Could you try and sound any more condescending please?

I said growth had dropped. I commented nothing on a conservative government that has been inflicting austerity on poorer people while lining the pockets of billionaires. That's a whole separate discussion point.

Brexit will lose money for the country and a tory government if still in power will only ratchet up austerity while dismantling the state further.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Could you try and sound any more condescending please?

I said growth had dropped. I commented nothing on a conservative government that has been inflicting austerity on poorer people while lining the pockets of billionaires. That's a whole separate discussion point.

Brexit will lose money for the country and a tory government if still in power will only ratchet up austerity while dismantling the state further.

You said there was nobody educating us. Take what you dish out.

ETA- You have just said that austerity has nothing to do with growth but it was the fault of Tories in power. Good, if we vote Labour in and Labour leads Brexit it needn’t necessarily result in more austerity.

I’m playing devils advocate here, I don’t have much faith in Labour either.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Could you try and sound any more condescending please?

I said growth had dropped. I commented nothing on a conservative government that has been inflicting austerity on poorer people while lining the pockets of billionaires. That's a whole separate discussion point.

Brexit will lose money for the country and a tory government if still in power will only ratchet up austerity while dismantling the state further.

And this might sound mental but, isn’t a Labour Manifesto meant to tell us what *Labour* will do if we vote them in? Why the fuck do people keep saying Corbyn is supporting a Tory hard brexit?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Seriously though I really want to see this principled data that we need to be shown. You said it, come wi it boy. This should be easy work for you, no?

 

[DotCommunist]

this made me laugh mind:

 

[Badgers]

Interesting stuff from Bloomberg coming out.

How Pollsters Helped Hedge Funds Beat the Pound's Brexit Crash

 

[MickiQ]

Interesting stuff from Bloomberg coming out.

How Pollsters Helped Hedge Funds Beat the Pound's Brexit Crash

Surely you are not suggesting that these companies are run by fraudsters, shysters and dodgy dealers?

 

[billbond]

Could you try and sound any more condescending please?

I said growth had dropped. I commented nothing on a conservative government that has been inflicting austerity on poorer people while lining the pockets of billionaires. That's a whole separate discussion point.

Brexit will lose money for the country and a tory government if still in power will only ratchet up austerity while dismantling the state further.

You seem to know the future
Can you put next weeks lottery numbers up please

 

[Badgers]

'I work in Brussels alongside EU Brexit negotiators and it makes me feel ashamed'

 

[butchersapron]

'I work in Brussels alongside EU Brexit negotiators and it makes me feel ashamed'

Hey badgers, will you ever say something for yourself? There are loads of boring liberal remainers aggregating sewage - do we need you to act as a channel to that on here. What makes you special? Of course, the like underneath will follow. But fucking hell.

 

[not-bono-ever]

'I work in Brussels alongside EU Brexit negotiators and it makes me feel ashamed'

She should be used to being ashamed - she is a Liberal Democrat

 

[Badgers]

Hey badgers, will you ever say something for yourself? There are loads of boring liberal remainers aggregating sewage - do we need you to act as a channel to that on here. What makes you special? Of course, the like underneath will follow. But fucking hell.

Good one

 

[butchersapron]

She should be used to being ashamed - she is a Liberal Democrat

She's neutral.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Sorry Supine I had the most unreal shite weekend at work and could have come across a bit better.

Anyway, eat the rich, etc. Taste just like chicken apparently.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

God Danny is right this stuff is boring it is probably best not to engage

 

[Badgers]

Hey badgers, will you ever say something for yourself? There are loads of boring liberal remainers aggregating sewage - do we need you to act as a channel to that on here. What makes you special? Of course, the like underneath will follow. But fucking hell.

It was going to expand on several things. Mainly because I think I know much more than journalists and really want my voice heard

But then realised I might need to engage with you and be sneered at plus ridiculed for my views. So (like many decent posters on here) I just can't be bothered to try anymore.

So hopefully whatever happens politically and with these fantastic Brexit negotiations I look forward to seeing your sneering tone more and will hope that you are happier in life than you are online.

 

[butchersapron]

It was going to expand on several things.

Yep.

 

[butchersapron]

But now i can't.

 

[Badgers]

Yep.

But now i can't.

There it is