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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?


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If the Remain campaign had tried to scare people with fake front pages supposedly from 2 years after the Brexit vote, they might have looked something like this.

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Oh look, BMW have joined in
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Personally, I can see them getting vindictive, instigating symbolic UK job losses at Airbus, BMW, Thales etc all completly overblown in the media (whilst the same companies are opening factories no end in the US and China currently).
The UK electorate will be left with a blunt choice between accepting democracy or short term financial security and that's where a brexit result would most likely be ignored - by the public bottling it post brexit referendum.
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Eh? You could nationalise the local factories, I guess, and then you'd have to figure out what to do with a whole bunch of aircraft wings with nothing to attach them to.
Well even if repurposing the factory to produce something else and/or selling those wings are off the cards, what's wrong with the above?

Aren't you a social democrat? Don't you see the value in paying one person to dig a hole and another to fill it in?
 
I am entirely serious. I mean it would be better if this factory was repurposed so that it produced something that was of more use (and it would be an even better thing if the factory workers declared a soviet and took control of the means of production), but yes I don't think it would be a bad thing for the workers in the factory to be paid
 
Submarines with shark fins'd be cool.
Since I'm hoping to be neighbours with the French navy in a few years' time, perhaps I'll suggest it to some matelots over a glass of red and a game of boules. :)
 
Submarines with shark fins'd be cool.
Since I'm hoping to be neighbours with the French navy in a few years' time, perhaps I'll suggest it to some matelots over a glass of red and a game of boules. :)

They could attach the wings to Corbyn’s nuke-less subs.
 
I'm not sure to what extent redsquirrel is trying to be satirical here, but I know people who work in that Airbus plant - like any highly skilled workers, they take a lot of pride in what they do, and they do it well, hard to imagine anything more demeaning than having them make wings that will never go on planes.
 
Your not being serious are you?
Capitalism claims to be efficient, but it pays lots of people to do things that don't need to be done. From business consultants to lobbyist to people paid to fix problems that don't exist or needn't exist. All manner of work that isn't really work is paid for by capitalism. It's not just in the public sector bureaucracies, like local government, that there is empire building and work creation in management. Businesses do it all the time. Meetings for the sake of meetings. People who think meetings are their work. And so on.

It's obviously better that useful things are done. But many people are paid to do things of no intrinsic worth.
 
Which bit are you confused by?

Even if all this nationalised factory does is produce airplane wings that are then dismantled what would be so bad about that?

A story that skilled workers could relate with pride to their grandchildren of how they worked on mighty flying craft and of how not a single life was lost in air travel from then on.
 
People seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that capitalism exists to produce useful things. It doesn't; it exists to generate profit.

Lots of useless stuff is produced.

No they are not, they are simply saying it’s neither right nor sustainable to add to that. Better to ensure people have the means to live and let them get on with living creative lives rather than create a state controlled nightmare.
 
I'm not sure to what extent redsquirrel is trying to be satirical here, but I know people who work in that Airbus plant - like any highly skilled workers, they take a lot of pride in what they do, and they do it well, hard to imagine anything more demeaning than having them make wings that will never go on planes.
I'm not being satirical at all.
The position that there are benefits to person A to dig a hole and person B to fill that hole in (to use the classic example) is not radical, it's bog standard Keynesism. It was accepted by the majority of the political class in the West for decades, including Conservatives.

That it now seems so out there to some people now just shows how success neo-liberalism has had in
economics are the method, the object is to change the soul
 
No they are not, they are simply saying it’s neither right nor sustainable to add to that. Better to ensure people have the means to live and let them get on with living creative lives rather than create a state controlled nightmare.
I'm not proposing this be done. I'm just saying there's much already done that is utterly bonkers but at least pays wages.
 
It may not be radical but it is idiotic and environmentally unfriendly to dig a hole for no purpose. Why not just pay the workers to have a day off, at least they wouldn't be wasting their time.
 
I'm not being satirical at all.
The position that there are benefits to person A to dig a hole and person B to fill that hole in (to use the classic example) is not radical, it's bog standard Keynesism. It was accepted by the majority of the political class in the West for decades, including Conservatives.

That it now seems so out there to some people now just shows how success neo-liberalism has had in

You are a Viz character and I claim my £5. Nobody likes busywork.
 
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