Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[HoratioCuthbert]

So far no suggested workable solution to the question of the land border on the island of Ireland from those who voted brexit to 'take back control' of the UK borders.

I KNEW THATS WHAT YOU WERE GONNA WRITE WHEN I SEEN THE ALERT

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

 

[JimW]

What about herbaceous? Mix of hardy perennials can make a lovely border.

 

[stethoscope]

So far no suggested workable solution to the question of the land border on the island of Ireland from those who voted brexit to 'take back control' of the UK borders.

As has been pointed out previously, you're really on the wrong forum if you think that most of us who voted leave was to 'take back control of the UK borders'


(I also have no idea why I'm bothering tbh )

 

[philosophical]

As has been pointed out previously, you're really on the wrong forum if you think that most of us who voted leave was to 'take back control of the UK borders'


(I also have no idea why I'm bothering tbh )

My post said that those who voted brexit for border control have no practical suggestions, and today brexit is one year away.
If brexiters had a range of reasons for voting that is their business, but the outcome of their vote is that they have to face up to the border issue, which may be an unintended consequence that surprises them, and my experience is that brexiters are struggling to face up to the consequence of what they have done. The most common reaction from brexiters is to say it is somebody else's problem to solve, that is something I disagree with, it is down to all those on the winning brexit side to suggest a workable and practical solution to the border.
I would like to see brexiters take responsibility rather than continue to demonstrate distain towards the Irish.

 

[teuchter]

As has been pointed out previously, you're really on the wrong forum if you think that most of us who voted leave was to 'take back control of the UK borders'

Did you vote for a Brexit where there was no change to the level or type of control of the UK border? If your vote was against being part of a neoliberal superstate, then to become separate from that neoliberal superstate necessarily means increased control over what happens at the border. You might not want to use the wording "taking back control" because of its associations but the fact is you voted for something that, without increased control of borders, would be meaningless. And what happens at the Irish border is part of that.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Did you vote for a Brexit where there was no change to the level or type of control of the UK border? If your vote was against being part of a neoliberal superstate, then to become separate from that neoliberal superstate necessarily means increased control over what happens at the border. You might not want to use the wording "taking back control" because of its associations but the fact is you voted for something that, without increased control of borders, would be meaningless. And what happens at the Irish border is part of that.

I think you know fine she used the phrase with intended connotations implied, because captain philosophy is accusing us of being racist. So pretty much a waste of a post that, stating the obvious.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Did you vote for a Brexit where there was no change to the level or type of control of the UK border? If your vote was against being part of a neoliberal superstate, then to become separate from that neoliberal superstate necessarily means increased control over what happens at the border. You might not want to use the wording "taking back control" because of its associations but the fact is you voted for something that, without increased control of borders, would be meaningless. And what happens at the Irish border is part of that.

I am being generous and assuming you know increased control doesn’t necessarily mean someone is in favour of a more racist immigration policy.

 

[philosophical]

I think you know fine she used the phrase with intended connotations implied, because captain philosophy is accusing us of being racist. So pretty much a waste of a post that, stating the obvious.

Distortion, my posts today contain no accusations of racism, and they are the ones being quoted above.

 

[teuchter]

I am being generous and assuming you know increased control doesn’t necessarily mean someone is in favour of a more racist immigration policy.

To be absolutely clear, I don't think any lexiteers posting here have any racist motivations whatsoever behind their support for Brexit. I also don't think it's fair to assume that Brexiteers generally, regardless of political persuasion, were motivated by racism, and I don't think it's helpful when people imply that they were.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Distortion, my posts today contain no accusations of racism, and they are the ones being quoted above.

“Continued disdain towards Irish people”

Cach! Utter cach!

 

[philosophical]

“Continued disdain towards Irish people”

Cach! Utter cach!

You picture of a gunman is what I mean by continued distain.
One day you might realise how distainful and offensive that is without moaning that others are not second guessing your supposed real intentions.

 

[kabbes]

Distortion, my posts today contain no accusations of racism, and they are the ones being quoted above.

You don't get to disassociate yourself from all your prior posts unless you choose to state that you disassociate yourself from all your prior posts.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

You picture of a gunman is what I mean by continued distain.
One day you might realise how distainful and offensive that is without moaning that others are not second guessing your supposed real intentions.

So where did I first dishonour the Irish then?

 

[Pickman's model]

You picture of a gunman is what I mean by continued distain.
One day you might realise how distainful and offensive that is without moaning that others are not second guessing your supposed real intentions.

 

[not-bono-ever]

You have to stop looking for offence in.
every.
single.
post.
ever

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[Pickman's model]

You have to stop looking for offence in.
every.
single.
post.
ever

i did stop, in 2004.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Not you , him

 

[sleaterkinney]

More here. Doesn’t sound like anyone knows what’s going on.

Emily Thornberry: Labour will “probably” vote for the Conservatives’ Brexit deal

If it's BINO, it would be difficult to vote against it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not you , him

oh! him? he'll never stop

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

i did stop, in 2004.

Did you notice he used DISTAIN as well like IRISH BLOOD STAINED HANDS the archaic racist!

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

WE’RE ALL SAYING BINO NOW

 

[DotCommunist]

preffered it to the Dandy anyway

 

[Pickman's model]

Did you noticed he used DISTAIN as well like IRISH BLOOD STAINED HANDS the archaic racist!

take away the blood-stained bandage from off an irish brow

 

[Pickman's model]

You picture of a gunman is what I mean by continued distain.
One day you might realise how distainful and offensive that is without moaning that others are not second guessing your supposed real intentions.

 

[stethoscope]

Blair lends May some support
May could stay on and call referendum if Brexit bill defeated, says Tony Blair

 

[philosophical]

You don't get to disassociate yourself from all your prior posts unless you choose to state that you disassociate yourself from all your prior posts.

I have not disassociated myself from previous posts.

 

[philosophical]

So where did I first dishonour the Irish then?

You tell me.

 

[stethoscope]

I have not disassociated myself from previous posts.

That's precisely kabbes point