Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[StigoftheDig]

My brother in law is Jesus and he holidays in Pakistan every year without trouble, you racist bastard.

 

[Pickman's model]

My brother in law is Jesus and he holidays in Pakistan every year without trouble, you racist bastard.

Yeh but he's armed with the wrath of god

 

[NoXion]

Anyway, back to the subject of Brexit...
Brexit: UK firms 'fearful' for future migration system

So they prefer EU migrants as employees because they're more willing to take it up the arse than UK nationals. Fucking slave-driving cunts.

 

[Pickman's model]

So they prefer EU migrants as employees because they're more willing to take it up the arse than UK nationals. Fucking slave-driving cunts. :angry:

Was that ever news?

 

[NoXion]

Was that ever news?

Given how this kind of thing is portrayed as EU workers being "more conscientious" rather than being "more exploited", it's the kind of news that more people need to hear.

 

[Pickman's model]

Given how this kind of thing is portrayed as EU workers being "more conscientious" rather than being "more exploited", it's the kind of news that more people need to hear.

If it isn't eu migrants it's west indians etc 'just off the boat'

 

[teqniq]

Ok I just had a chat with a Pakistani friend of mine and she says pretty much what Yossarian says; it depends on where his family are from unless you know that you can't really know if there's a real risk of harm coming to them.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ok I just had a chat with a Pakistani friend of mine and she says pretty much what Yossarian says; it pretty much depends on where his family are from unless you know that you can't really know if there's a real risk of harm coming to them.

Grand. So let's all hope it turns out fine for as many people as possible

 

[DotCommunist]

Given how this kind of thing is portrayed as EU workers being "more conscientious" rather than being "more exploited", it's the kind of news that more people need to hear.

remember this?
Tory MPs criticise 'idle workers'

the idea of the worker as lazy and entitled as code for 'its better in other places where we can work people 10 hours a day seven days a week for peanuts'. Thats their supposed 'internationalism' writ explicit

 

[Pickman's model]

remember this?
Tory MPs criticise 'idle workers'

the idea of the worker as lazy and entitled as code for 'its better in other places where we can work people 10 hours a day seven days a week for peanuts'. Thats their supposed 'internationalism' writ explicit

It's amazing that the British economy ever rose above that of less prosperous countries when you consider the appalling management workers have to contend with

 

[killer b]

Just reading this big academic article about the political economy of brexit by Helen Thompson - free to read until 24th April cause it's won a prize. She's usually very insightful, and this looks up to scratch. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

 

[Artaxerxes]

remember this?
Tory MPs criticise 'idle workers'

the idea of the worker as lazy and entitled as code for 'its better in other places where we can work people 10 hours a day seven days a week for peanuts'. Thats their supposed 'internationalism' writ explicit

He's right, just the lazy bastards are all the fuckers at the top end of the food chain getting paid a mint for doing fuck all.

Sorry... "strategising and maximising shareholder value"

Cunts.

 

[redsquirrel]

Just reading this big academic article about the political economy of brexit by Helen Thompson - free to read until 24th April cause it's won a prize. She's usually very insightful, and this looks up to scratch. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

Ta

 

[killer b]

She makes a good case for Brexit as a political inevitability rather than the shock result most people experienced it as.

 

[StigoftheDig]

Labour's six tests are (from a quick Google):

1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?

2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union?

3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities?

4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?

5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?

6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?

I'm not sure how something "without any proper decisions made" can passs those tests, but I haven't heard what Emily Thornberry has actually said, so maybe there's more on that.

 

[Winot]

Test 2 is impossible to meet and Starmer knew it. It’s reminiscent of Brown’s Euro tests.

The clever bit though is that it is quoting David Davis himself.

Despite this I doubt Labour will folllow through and vote against Brexit, for all the reasons discussed up thread.

 

[StigoftheDig]

Why do you think Thornberry is (reportedly - Tweet is from Guardian Diplomatic Editor) saying that it will "probably" meet the tests?

 

[Pickman's model]

Why do you think Thornberry is (reportedly - Tweet is from Guardian Diplomatic Editor) saying that it will "probably" meet the tests?

because that's her job (reportedly)

next

 

[Winot]

Why do you think Thornberry is (reportedly - Tweet is from Guardian Diplomatic Editor) saying that it will "probably" meet the tests?

Dunno - because she's trying to bounce Labour into not rocking the boat for political reasons I guess.

 

[StigoftheDig]

Fair enough... seems an odd plan when everyone's going to immediately say, "hold on...!"

And I just remembered that the default position of a deal being voted down is leaving with no deal so there is that too. . .

 

[Winot]

More here. Doesn’t sound like anyone knows what’s going on.

Emily Thornberry: Labour will “probably” vote for the Conservatives’ Brexit deal

 

[philosophical]

Return of anti-Irish prejudice in Britain? | Generation Emigration

 

[butchersapron]

Thanks ever so much for that piece from 6 years ago.

 

[stethoscope]

Grief. I'll have philosophical back at this rate.

I take this back btw.

 

[Pickman's model]

Return of anti-Irish prejudice in Britain? | Generation Emigration

News of Leicester's league championship has yet to penetrate one part of South London

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Return of anti-Irish prejudice in Britain? | Generation Emigration

Nobody -literally nobobdy-voted brexit because they hated the irish, as well you know, Weeeeesht ffs.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I could say English voted leave to punish us Scots.... if I was a fuckwit

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Just reading this big academic article about the political economy of brexit by Helen Thompson - free to read until 24th April cause it's won a prize. She's usually very insightful, and this looks up to scratch. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

Thanks very much, most useful read on this thread for a wee while

 

[Winot]

Why do you think Thornberry is (reportedly - Tweet is from Guardian Diplomatic Editor) saying that it will "probably" meet the tests?

John McDonnell rowing back from this now on R4 Today. Apparently Thornberry was being ‘sarcastic’.

 

[philosophical]

So far no suggested workable solution to the question of the land border on the island of Ireland from those who voted brexit to 'take back control' of the UK borders.