The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Second referendum, get the house of Lords to intervene, take out a court case, get the MPs to stop it. Hallmarks of democrats after a referendum result they didnt like.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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philosophical
Well-Known Member
I would say there are 'solutions', but they would come at a very high price.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
one small step...
UK and EU agree Brexit transition terms
UK and EU agree Brexit transition terms
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
A lot more than £100,000,000 per DUP vote this time, most likely.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Take back control.
I'm a remainer, but I can't think of anything that I'd less like than a second referendum -- if you want to provoke an even bigger majority for Brexit, make voters feel insulted by imposing, I mean "offering", a new referendum ...
Yossarian
⏭️
A new election would be more like it.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
If we had another election what do you think the result would be?
Yossarian
⏭️
Labour win, which is why I'm not expecting one until 2022.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's why one won't be offered but in the next nine months it will become clear that the country is woefully ill-prepared to leave and that therefore - on the basis that a narrow majority in a vote held two years ago - it is simpler to remain. the government will say 'we did our best (and that will be true) but a) it's too complex for us and b) we really can't get the staff'.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
something else may can't offer.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a new election with the same auld parties.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Could have had more data from other member states of the EU but nevertheless quite thought provoking
The Euro May Already Be Lost | HuffPost
The Euro May Already Be Lost | HuffPost
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
That'll be about £54 now
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Why? You have posted a picture of a mis-printed price label. What were you hoping to achieve by doing so?
pocketscience
Well-Known Member
I think he's trying to say that Brexit's so bad he's having to resort to buying recycled jeans
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
As long as you can laugh at people having to use charity shops, eh
Here's a joke for you...you sound like a tory.
"aw he has to buy recycled jeans...haw haw haw"
A joke about someone having to buy cheap clothes? Fuck off.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You're having a laugh if you think £60 jeans are cheapAs long as you can laugh at people having to use charity shops, eh
Here's a joke for you...you sound like a tory.
"aw he has to buy recycled jeans...haw haw haw"
A joke about someone having to buy cheap clothes? Fuck off.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Hes a george man 100%
pocketscience
Well-Known Member
Tory lol.As long as you can laugh at people having to use charity shops, eh
Here's a joke for you...you sound like a tory.
"aw he has to buy recycled jeans...haw haw haw"
A joke about someone having to buy cheap clothes? Fuck off.
I'm well aquainted with charity shops and I've never seen a pair of baked beans for 50 odd quid in one.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Interesting, though I suspect they underestimate the elites' ability to pull together tighter political unions in spite of public mood. The amount of national integration achieved within the Eurozone is already formidable.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I can't be bothered to look into this latest deal in any detail but I assume it's basically just kicking all the real issues down the line a bit, to the end of the transition period, rather than actually resolving any of them?
In which case an indefinite period of transitional purgatory seems the likely outcome. By the time we're done transitioning the EU will probably be crumbling anyway.
In which case an indefinite period of transitional purgatory seems the likely outcome. By the time we're done transitioning the EU will probably be crumbling anyway.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
They're also overstating the negativity of the public mood. For example, by highlighting that not far from half of Dutch voters would support a referendum on the EU, but not mentioning that only 18% would actually vote out, per the same survey.
There are complex issues to with attitudes towards the EU on the continent. The rising popularity of the far-right can't be denied. But there's a long way to go before it reaches anything like a tipping-point.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The thing about tipping points is that you often don't see them coming.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The article ommitted Italy where the Euro sceptic 5 star was the largest party. Interestingly enough its young voters in Italy that are most for leaving the EU.
The tribes of Europe :Attitudes towards the EU test
Tribes of Europe
The tribes of Europe :Attitudes towards the EU test
Tribes of Europe
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Semantics, but I think tipping-points are foreseeable, by definition. You can also have unexpected step-changes, which are not.
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