Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[rekil]

I'm not sure it's very big or clever for Cable to accuse anyone of racism since he still has questions to answer about the hanging of black people.

 

[DexterTCN]

Normandy advert to seduce UK firms after Brexit banned

 

[not-bono-ever]

He is rather loose with his terms, and I wouldn't trust his sincerity in these matters myself. For a start I have encountered 'younger people' (I wonder where he draws the line) who express unashamed racist views, and general hatred of foreigners which influenced their vote one wet day in June 2016.

Yo Bro' - I voted remain- a pragamtic through my gritted yellowed teeth remain vote, be clear on that - and let me just say that you are doing your corner no fucking favours with this latest cacalcade of toss.

 

[philosophical]

Yo Bro' - I voted remain- a pragamtic through my gritted yellowed teeth remain vote, be clear on that - and let me just say that you are doing your corner no fucking favours with this latest cacalcade of toss.

I don't have a corner, just me.

 

[The39thStep]

At least Vince Cable agrees with you, philosophical

Brexit: Older Leave voters nostalgic for 'white' Britain, says Cable

I was under the impression that most of the immigration from the EU is white.

 

[The39thStep]

23 june 2016 was not a wet day, certainly not in london.

Apparently heavy showers and flash flooding in parts of London and South East around tea time.

 

[Pickman's model]

Apparently heavy showers and flash flooding in parts of London and South East around tea time.

On a mostly dry day doesn't have quite the same ring

 

[The39thStep]

This was posted?

“'Sorry, late to this thread and my first post. Am I right is assuming that everybody who voted brexit is an ignorant racist self serving nationalist brainwashed tosser?''”

It was about a year ago or two when mud was being slung. We managed to bore ourselves into civilised discussion.

That’s the theme now. I hope. No tropes.

The small fact that a third of the ethnic minority's vote was for Brexit is just one of things that should be skated over.

 

[The39thStep]

On a mostly dry day doesn't have quite the same ring

What is it with weather and racism ?

 

[Raheem]

I was under the impression that most of the immigration from the EU is white.

In fairness, there were definitely some leavers who struggled with that nuance. A small minority, it should be stressed, but a real one I think.

 

[DotCommunist]

It was bin day st mary's ward kettering. Thursday. Maybe psephologists can pore over the significance of that. You've got dressed to take the bins round the front, its a nice day for walking and votin'.

 

[The39thStep]

Obviously the older voters in 'white Britain in 1975 were a different kettle of fish

At least Vince Cable agrees with you, philosophical

Brexit: Older Leave voters nostalgic for 'white' Britain, says Cable

 

[Raheem]

Obviously the older voters in 'white Britain in 1975 were a different kettle of fish
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Well, yes, obviously. But why?

 

[The39thStep]

Well, yes, obviously. But why?

Good question . What do you think?

 

[philosophical]

The small fact that a third of the ethnic minority's vote was for Brexit is just one of things that should be skated over.

Not at all.

 

[Raheem]

Good question . What do you think?

I really don't know. But what I would say is that the comparison doesn't directly tell us anything about the role of race and immigration as voting issues in 2016 because, for reasons of context, these were not prominent in the 1975 debate.

 

[The39thStep]

I really don't know. But what I would say is that the comparison doesn't directly tell us anything about the role of race and immigration as voting issues in 2016 because, for reasons of context, these were not prominent in the 1975 debate.

Immigration in that period was from the Commonwealth and a large percentage were non white.EU immigration to Britain didn't really take off until the mid 2000s.

 

[Raheem]

Immigration in that period was from the Commonwealth and a large percentage were non white.EU immigration to Britain didn't really take off until the mid 2000s.

Yes, precisely.

 

[The39thStep]

Yes, precisely.

I found this , and only this from a study looking at demographic trends in both referendum:
"Based on views towards immigration – specifically, whether it was important or not for the government to repatriate immigrants – support for membership stood at 68 per cent of those for whom this was important, 73 per cent amongst those who were not sure and 74 per cent of those who said it was not important."
Clearly possible to be in favour of immigration controls and be a remainer in 1975.

 

[DotCommunist]

Cable rows back on his thinly veiled comments about old racists
Vince Cable denies calling Brexit supporters racist

 

[Wilf]

Cable rows back on his thinly veiled comments about old racists
Vince Cable denies calling Brexit supporters racist

'The Old Racists', sounds like a new sitcom, loosely based on the correspondence of Kingsley Amis and Philip Larkin.

 

[philosophical]

Copied and pasted for anybody interested.

Cliff Taylor: After Brexit – the danger of a ‘Boris Border’

 

[Badgers]

'The Old Racists', sounds like a new sitcom, loosely based on the correspondence of Kingsley Amis and Philip Larkin.

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder how many people voted remain attracted by the EU's aggressive pushing of the hardest of borders around the white homeland - keep Rhodesia white style. This after all is a strong part of the contemporaries european far-rights turn to welfare chauvinism (i.e strong borders to better protect and expand social provisions for natives)?

 

[Hollis]

Obviously the older voters in 'white Britain in 1975 were a different kettle of fish
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They probably were a very different kettle of fish - for a start they'd have lived through one, if not two world and european wars.

 

[The39thStep]

They probably were a very different kettle of fish - for a start they'd have lived through one, if not two world and european wars.

Yes you are right but the referendum was about staying in a trade agreement.

 

[The39thStep]

I wonder how many people voted remain attracted by the EU's aggressive pushing of the hardest of borders around the white homeland - keep Rhodesia white style. This after all is a strong part of the contemporaries european far-rights turn to welfare chauvinism (i.e strong borders to better protect and expand social provisions for natives)?

Its a point worth discussing as EU nationals recieve an easier time re immigration than workers from the majority black and asian Commonwealth

 

[The39thStep]

I think this is quite a good article on immigration trends , public opinion and the EU. Especially as it was written the year before the referendum. Also helps to answer the issue why immigration despite the emergence of the NF wasn't such an issue in 1975.
Immigration and Euroscepticism: the rising storm

 

[Pickman's model]

I think this is quite a good article on immigration trends , public opinion and the EU. Especially as it was written the year before the referendum. Also helps to answer the issue why immigration despite the emergence of the NF wasn't such an issue in 1975.
Immigration and Euroscepticism: the rising storm

by 1975 the nf had of course been around for 8 years

 

[sealion]

by 1975 the nf had of course been around for 8 years

The nf back then were more anti irish iirc. They often marched around Walworth / Bermondsey shouting anti irish shit. My dad and his mates from work, the pub and Millwall would go and get stuck into them. By the late seventies they were aiming there rage more and more at black and asian people.