Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[philosophical]

Other than on this thread, where will you be engaging your enemy?

At the meeting you are organising in Birmingham possibly.

 

[sealion]

At the meeting you are organising in Birmingham possibly.

Proper trolling now you wanker. You mean the fla march and you are implying that Wilf is a member.

 

[Wilf]

At the meeting you are organising in Birmingham possibly.

This is what it comes down to though isn't it? All your anger, all your outrage, all your concern about racism - and you will be doing nothing.

 

[philosophical]

Proper trolling now you wanker. You mean the fla march and you are implying that Wilf is a member.

No. Read back and it will make sense.

 

[philosophical]

Proper trolling now you wanker. You mean the fla march and you are implying that Wilf is a member.

No. He suggested organizing a meeting in a church hall in Birmingham.

 

[philosophical]

This is what it comes down to though isn't it? All your anger, all your outrage, all your concern about racism - and you will be doing nothing.

Have you called your meeting off then?

 

[sealion]

No. Read back and it will make sense.

None of what you say makes sense. You are a troll plain and simple.

 

[philosophical]

None of what you say makes sense. You are a troll plain and simple.

If you look at post 6531 you will see you are wrong, pure and simple.

 

[Wilf]

None of what you say makes sense. You are a troll plain and simple.

Yep, we've reached the point of v signs and fart noises, no attempt to discuss anything.

 

[sealion]

we've reached the point of v signs and fart noises

a fair summary

 

[philosophical]

Proper trolling now you wanker. You mean the fla march and you are implying that Wilf is a member.

Did you bother to read post 6531, or would you rather gloss over that one?

 

[Winot]

Have just been discussing Brexit in Club 414 (Brixton) with a guy whose dad was in the IRA #sentencesineverthoughtidwrite

 

[kabbes]

At the meeting you are organising in Birmingham possibly.

So the limits of your willingness to do anything beyond post on this message board is a non-appearance at a fictitious meeting that was made up as a rhetorical device to illustrate the meaningless of your demands for all brexiters to agree on an answer aside.

Or is there anything else on top of that particular zero?

 

[DexterTCN]

Have just been discussing Brexit in Club 414 (Brixton) with a guy whose dad was in the IRA #sentencesineverthoughtidwrite

Was it interesting?

 

[philosophical]

So the limits of your willingness to do anything beyond post on this message board is a non-appearance at a fictitious meeting that was made up as a rhetorical device to illustrate the meaningless of your demands for all brexiters to agree on an answer aside.

Or is there anything else on top of that particular zero?[/QUOTE

I have done a number of bits and bobs over my lifetime.
If I listed them it would mean:
More personal disclosure to be thrown back at me.
Accusations that they weren't true.
Declarations that they weren't enough.
Comments that they were improper or incorrect in some way.
Observations that others have done more.
Demands for documentary or photographic evidence, which would not stop until I provide a blood sample or my DNA.

I have done stuff, bits and bobs as I say. More when I was younger with more energy and better health. I don't have to justify myself to you or anybody regarding the degree of my activism, nor give you information to speculate about and decry.

As for the future? I expect to do other bits and pieces as circumstances allow.


Now I fully anticipate you won't take me at my word.

It is amusing that even the 'rhetorical device' which I responded to was used as a channel of accusation towards me by your mate sealion in a desperate attempt to score a point.
Oh, and before accusations that I make this all about me, it is others who wish to make it so, play the man not the ball as it were.
I would rather discuss matters arising from brexit most especially the Irish border.

 

[The39thStep]

Getting to the point where Im considering we should be arguing for a second refrendum and voting remain just to get philosophical off this thread.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nothing to say I see

 

[kabbes]

{Irrelevant stuff about the past that doesn’t answer the question snipped}

As for the future? I expect to do other bits and pieces as circumstances allow.

So that’s nothing then.

And what is it you expect of us on this thread, again? Why are you here?

 

[philosophical]

Getting to the point where Im considering we should be arguing for a second refrendum and voting remain just to get philosophical off this thread.

I would argue against a second referendum personally. If for no other reason that the whole malarkey will go on forever.
Brexit won, I am trying to get over it, brexiters have to get on with it.

 

[philosophical]

So that’s nothing then.

And what is it you expect of us on this thread, again? Why are you here?

When you get to my age the past provides a platform to inform the future, but you would 'snip' that away as not relevant which is convenient for you isn't it?
No, not nothing. However I am not going to list my activities for you and your groupthink cohort to sneer at.
I have paid dues in struggling to try to effect change and I will do what I can in the future. Do you think it will make a difference if I mentioned some of the things I have done? I doubt it, but it will give posters here a chance to put the personal boot in and get fresh fuel for their snide comments.
When you enquire as to why I am here, is that some kind of question you have been nurturing since you last saw a Samuel Beckett play?

 

[mojo pixy]

groupthink cohort

 

[philosophical]

Nothing to say I see

I would imagine in your case that is obvious to long term posters here.
Every so often you pop up and say 'beep !' like one of those children's toys, I imagine it is an attempt to curry favour and get approval which is an understandable human quality.

 

[philosophical]

Can't defend your view? They must be ganging up lol

I have been defending myself on here constantly. It is for others to decide whether they think my views are valid or the defence successful.
Others have accused me of not having a view, but you have moved it on to me defending that apparently non existent view.
I really don't care about any ganging up, I feel I am able to handle it. But there are examples of groupthink expressed on this thread and I don't blame posters here in being thirsty for the approval of others, it seems to be a bit of a human trait.
It is my observation of what happens here, and does not particularly bother me.

 

[philosophical]

Apologies. I quoted your post before you reduced it in your edit.

 

[mojo pixy]

That's ok, it seemed needlessly mean so I took it out, but it can stay in your quote.

You're right when you say you have been defending yourself, but I actually posted defend your view, which is why you can't do it. There's nothing defensible in what you've posted so far. You started by branding half the electorate as ignorant racists with a bad-faith pretend "question" and you've come on all surprised that it got up people's noses (even quite a few Remain voters btw) and now you're reduced to posting shit like groupthink cohort. If you're defending your view then you're Germany, your view is Stalingrad, and I claim my five Euros.

 

[philosophical]

That's ok, it seemed needlessly mean so I took it out, but it can stay in your quote.

You're right when you say you have been defending yourself, but I actually posted defend your view, which is why you can't do it. There's nothing defensible in what you've posted so far. You started by branding half the electorate as ignorant racists with a bad-faith pretend "question" and you've come on all surprised that it got up people's noses (even quite a few Remain voters btw) and now you're reduced to posting shit like groupthink cohort. If you're defending your view then you're Germany, your view is Stalingrad, and I claim my five Euros.

Bit of a subtle difference though. I have been defending myself (as you seem to agree) but I have acknowledged my views can and are disagreed with.
When others here want to move it on to the personal such as 'fuck off you shitcunt', then respective viewpoints are abandoned and we are in red in tooth and claw territory.
It does not suit the agenda of others, and it appears you as well, to acknowledge that I have modified the stance taken by what you describe as a 'bad faith question' on a couple of occasions due to reflection on what some others have said.
However I make no apology whatsoever to those hypocrites here who are abusive in a personal sense, nor will I dance to the tune they demand but will plough my own furrow.
Isn't it tiresome to be talking about me anyway? It was better when there was discussion about the nature of democracy or brexit and the Irish border.
As for groupthink, yeah in my view there is some of that going on here.

 

[kabbes]

groupthink cohort

Before you turned up, this thread comprised 180 pages of that “groupthink cohort” arguing with each other. About 50/50 Brexit/Remain. Since you’ve turned up, though, it’s just been 40 pages of people thinking you’re a prick. Go figure.

 

[Pickman's model]

I would imagine in your case that is obvious to long term posters here.
Every so often you pop up and say 'beep !' like one of those children's toys, I imagine it is an attempt to curry favour and get approval which is an understandable human quality.

You've been beeping a lot and your nearly 400 posts demonstrate an empty vessel makes the loudest noise. And you're not gaining approval

 

[philosophical]

Before you turned up, this thread comprised 180 pages of that “groupthink cohort” arguing with each other. About 50/50 Brexit/Remain. Since you’ve turned up, though, it’s just been 40 pages of people thinking you’re a prick. Go figure.

Yep I have contemplated this and concluded you think I am a prick, and you wish to invoke 'people' as having the same view as you. If that isn't a description of groupthink it is an aspiration.

 

[philosophical]

You've been beeping a lot and your nearly 400 posts demonstrate an empty vessel makes the loudest noise. And you're not gaining approval

I think you misunderstand me, I believe your own brief interventions are a search for approval.
If I sought approval here I would go about things differently