Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[xenon]

I am on my phone, so forgive the lack of a link. But look at all those racist unions.

 

[philosophical]

I meant glad you’re retired, as a union rep. Some of your members may have voted Brexit but you would dismiss them as racist. No analysis, no questioning, just knee-jerk tabloid rubbish. I don’t know what union you were, are in. It doesn’t matter. But look at what some unions are saying about the EU.

'As a union rep' is it now?
Not just plain retired as you wrote earlier.
Hypocrisy.
I am not responsible for other unions, and I did my extensive union work unpaid and in my own time.
My retirement was from paid employment, and I continue to pay my union dues (at a now lower rate).
You are a hypocrite to try to dilute what you said, I wouldn't even know why, stand by it, it was a revealing comment, own it.

 

[kabbes]

'As a union rep' is it now?
Not just plain retired as you wrote earlier.
Hypocrisy.

No:

Union activist, with nothing to say apart from brexitrs are racist. Glad you’re retired TBH.

That clearly implies xenon is glad you are retired from being a union activist. It’s the only interpretation that is coherent in the structure of the post as a whole. Why would he suddenly ma,e the non-sequitur to talking about employment generally, and doubly so why would he do so immediately after placing it within the context of talking about the tension between being a union activist on one hand and having hate and contempt’s for union members on the other? Not to mention that the fact that he then subsequently reiterated that this indeed is what he meant removes any possible doubt.

 

[philosophical]

Subsequently reiterated?
Not in the 'subsequent' posts 6379 or 6383.
Either way retired from Trade Union activity or work in general the implication isn't easy to misunderstand.
I really don't feel worried about his or her personal digs by the way, or the implied dig about old people generally, I simply point out the hypocrisy to any of those oh so pure souls here who want to lecture about proper behaviour.
He or she said it, they ought to stand by it.

The general strategy here is not difficult to follow, dig out a poster, they defend themselves and therefore are accused of attention seeking and it all being 'look at me' or being a troll. It is bollocks. A poster earlier put me on ignore, wouldn't that be a better policy, a personal bit of what people these days call 'no platforming'?

 

[butchersapron]

Jesus fucking Christ.

 

[kabbes]

Subsequently reiterated?
Not in the 'subsequent' posts 6379 or 6383.
Either way retired from Trade Union activity or work in general the implication isn't easy to misunderstand.
I really don't feel worried about his or her personal digs by the way, or the implied dig about old people generally, I simply point out the hypocrisy to any of those oh so pure souls here who want to lecture about proper behaviour.
He or she said it, they ought to stand by it.

The general strategy here is not difficult to follow, dig out a poster, they defend themselves and therefore are accused of attention seeking and it all being 'look at me' or being a troll. It is bollocks. A poster earlier put me on ignore, wouldn't that be a better policy, a personal bit of what people these days call 'no platforming'?

There’s a difference between “no platforming” and feeling that life is too short to be bothered interacting with a total dick.

 

[andysays]

I'd like to echo philosophical's suggestion and encourage EVERYONE to put them on ignore, or at least stop responding to them.

 

[philosophical]

There’s a difference between “no platforming” and feeling that life is too short to be bothered interacting with a total dick.

Use the ignore facility.

 

[Pickman's model]

Use the ignore facility.

come on, not far to go now


people who've replied most to this thread since its inception in june 2016

 

[philosophical]

I'd like to echo philosophical's suggestion and encourage EVERYONE to put them on ignore, or at least stop responding to them.

I'd like to echo philosophical's suggestion and encourage EVERYONE to put them on ignore, or at least stop responding to them.

Yay. Follow the leaders encouragement.
Baaaaa.

 

[The39thStep]

Do you think that's what JC wants ?

Of course it isn't. Corbyn would want the election to be about his platform, not about Brexit. OTOH, Brexit isn't going to be very helpful to him in delivering his platform, in that he needs reliable tax revenues and could do without an increase in the cost of government borrowing. So, what he ideally wants is for Brexit to sink before he ends up obliged to sail it.

This presupposes that Brexit is somehow an inconvenience to Corbyn because it gets in the way of the rest of the plaform. Maybe it is for the sections of the Labour Party membership ie its TUC backers and the middle class but Im not sure it is for Corbyn who has over his lifetime been anti EU.I think he sees Brexit as a real opportunity. Any retreat on Brexit though is problematic for any attempt Labour wants to make in connecting with the working class in the majority of the country.
The issues of tax revenues and cost of government borrowing , if indeed they are issues, apply to the Tories as well and aren't depedent on Brexit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yay. Follow the leaders encouragement.
Baaaaa.

leader's

wake up sheeple

 

[philosophical]

leader's

wake up sheeple

'sheeple'?

 

[Pickman's model]

'sheeple'?

sheeple.

 

[kabbes]

Use the ignore facility.

My life’s not too short when I’m at work. Interact with the dicks here or there, what difference does it make.

 

[JimW]

It's quite surprising that with such an engaging debating style the remain side lost the vote.

 

[krtek a houby]

It's quite surprising that with such an engaging debating style the remain side lost the vote.

Thickos, the lot of 'em

 

[Pickman's model]

it's such a pity there's no 'try before you buy' brexit option.

 

[kabbes]

Good piece from Gary Younge today, which sums up a lot of the morass pretty well:

The shambles of Brexit diverts attention from the EU’s democratic deficit | Gary Younge

 

[The39thStep]

Some intersting news about the youth vote but this time in Italy .

The vast majority of young Italians -born in 1999, first time voters- either voted for the populist 5 Star, national populist League or right-wing Forza

Luigi Scazzieri @LScazzieri

 

[butchersapron]

Good piece from Gary Younge today, which sums up a lot of the morass pretty well:

The shambles of Brexit diverts attention from the EU’s democratic deficit | Gary Younge

He avoids - or, maybe worse, isn't aware - that a fully democratic eu imposing aggressive neo-liberalism (what we have now and what has been written into it's structures to avoid any democratic accountability or the possibility of it - they are quite open about this) will produce the exact same results. It's the results of neo-liberalism and peoples awareness of where it wants to drive them in the future that's producing this continent wide disaffection - not a lack of EU democracy, but a lack of democracy, choice and options in everyday real life. That's why it's been replicated in states with different traditions and forms of institutions, whether nominally under the control of the left or the right.

 

[The39thStep]

Good piece from Gary Younge today, which sums up a lot of the morass pretty well:

The shambles of Brexit diverts attention from the EU’s democratic deficit | Gary Younge

At least that is some recognition that the EU isn't quite the promised land that we are leaving. One of the most disappointing things about the morass a lot of Remainers have now deteriorated into is the complete absence of any suggestion that the EU could/should be reformed.

 

[The39thStep]

Terry Christian now conducting Twitter polls on should Brexit voters be sacked first if there are redundancies .

 

[SpookyFrank]

Terry Christian now conducting Twitter polls on should Brexit voters be sacked first if there are redundancies .

Only if remain voters are first in line to be shot when the EU finally mutates into a fascist dystopia and starts rolling out the death squads.

 

[butchersapron]

Terry Christian now conducting Twitter polls on should Brexit voters be sacked first if there are redundancies .

I rarely go on twitter now but when i do i often find the first thing on my mates list is you replying to one of his eu idiocies. His repeated insistence that he hasn't lost touch with his roots unlike nearly everyone else is hilarious.

 

[The39thStep]

I rarely go on twitter now but when i do i often find the first thing on my mates list is you replying to one of his eu idiocies. His repeated insistence that he hasn't lost touch with his roots unlike nearly everyone else is hilarious.

He's obssessed its the only issue in his life.

 

[Teaboy]

Only if remain voters are first in line to be shot when the EU finally mutates into a fascist dystopia and starts rolling out the death squads.

Given some of the recent election results across Europe it looks like a fair few would welcome that.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Given some of the recent election results across Europe it looks like a fair few would welcome that.

My post was only half-joking tbh.

 

[not-bono-ever]

twitter is a circle jerk of idiocy mostly

 

[Pickman's model]

twitter is a circle jerk of idiocy mostly

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