Is anyone worried about the future of Britain's culture?

[Wilf]

It's depressing for us that you came back, TBH.

Be even more depressing when we find out who 'Olive' really is.

Does Firky still take a tilt at posting again or is this a next generation troll?

 

[tim]

I have just returned to Britain after several years living abroad. Grew up here all my life and kind of ignored this, but coming back I can't help wondering... is it just me worried about Britain losing it's culture? Is everyone really cool with it or are people just numb to it now?

Living in places in East Asia and Africa, many people expressed to me an admiration for 'British' culture. British gentlemen, afternoon tea, the Oxford-Cambridge education system, etc etc. You know the stuff. After years abroad I kind of played up to it. I was proud to tell people about little quirks of our culture, our history, our religion and how it branched off from the rest of Christianity. How monarchy became the Magna Carta became the parliament became what we have today. All that proper 'British' stuff.

Coming back, it... seems like none of that really exists anymore? Seems like most areas I go to Brits aren't even a majority. And what's worse, most countries in Asia have better customer service, transport and atittudes than we do here.

Is anyone else worried about this? Are people just apathetic? Do they not realise because it's been a slow creep? Or do people really not mind all the things we've lost?

Fuck off back abroad, cunt!

 

[brogdale]

3rd page; ban-hammer time

 

[OliveGreen]

3rd page; ban-hammer time

Well if that's how you do things here I can see how you would end up with a membership bias.

Anyway, it's not become much of a fruitful conversation by this point so I don't suppose it matters.

 

[danny la rouge]

British gentlemen, afternoon tea, the Oxford-Cambridge education system, etc etc. You know the stuff.

No, I’m not sure what you’re getting at. What about British Gentlemen, afternoon tea, and Oxford-Cambridge? What do you mean?

 

[Elpenor]

Makes a chance to have a racist from the north of England I suppose, after the southern England independence type who’s visited a few times

 

[brogdale]

I can see how you would end up with a membership bias.

"16th" post evah

 

[danny la rouge]

Why is it wrong to worry about losing white culture in Britain

White is a skin colour, not a culture. Culture is a social phenomenon.

 

[BigMoaner]

I have just returned to Britain after several years living abroad. Grew up here all my life and kind of ignored this, but coming back I can't help wondering... is it just me worried about Britain losing it's culture? Is everyone really cool with it or are people just numb to it now?

Living in places in East Asia and Africa, many people expressed to me an admiration for 'British' culture. British gentlemen, afternoon tea, the Oxford-Cambridge education system, etc etc. You know the stuff. After years abroad I kind of played up to it. I was proud to tell people about little quirks of our culture, our history, our religion and how it branched off from the rest of Christianity. How monarchy became the Magna Carta became the parliament became what we have today. All that proper 'British' stuff.

Coming back, it... seems like none of that really exists anymore? Seems like most areas I go to Brits aren't even a majority. And what's worse, most countries in Asia have better customer service, transport and atittudes than we do here.

Is anyone else worried about this? Are people just apathetic? Do they not realise because it's been a slow creep? Or do people really not mind all the things we've lost?

12 pages, two bans and 3 C Bombs.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Perhaps that's it. I'm in the North, so I'm sure the economic aspect is partly responsible for my dreary outlook. It does feel like there's less 'character' here than in places like Korea, Japan or China. Perhaps it's as much about bending everything to corporations and ignoring how people feel as it is about immigration affecting our culture. Idk, just seems depressing to be back here but I didn't wanna spend my whole life abroad.

Are you old enough to remember what Thatcher did to the North?

Culturally, I would have said the USA was a bigger influence in the loss of "British" culture. All countries loose regional identity as mobility improves.

You've only been away 5 years, you say, I think it's your memory that's failing faster than Britain is changing.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

The “English gentleman” died about the same time that “debutantes” ceased to be “presented” to the Monarch, which was before you were born.

there's still jacob rees mogg

 

[neonwilderness]

Well if that's how you do things here I can see how you would end up with a membership bias.

We don't want to lose Urban's culture

 

[bellaozzydog]

I have just returned to Britain after several years living abroad. Grew up here all my life and kind of ignored this, but coming back I can't help wondering... is it just me worried about Britain losing it's culture? Is everyone really cool with it or are people just numb to it now?

Living in places in East Asia and Africa, many people expressed to me an admiration for 'British' culture. British gentlemen, afternoon tea, the Oxford-Cambridge education system, etc etc. You know the stuff. After years abroad I kind of played up to it. I was proud to tell people about little quirks of our culture, our history, our religion and how it branched off from the rest of Christianity. How monarchy became the Magna Carta became the parliament became what we have today. All that proper 'British' stuff.

Coming back, it... seems like none of that really exists anymore? Seems like most areas I go to Brits aren't even a majority. And what's worse, most countries in Asia have better customer service, transport and atittudes than we do here.

Is anyone else worried about this? Are people just apathetic? Do they not realise because it's been a slow creep? Or do people really not mind all the things we've lost?

I fucking hate expat brits and their fucking ruminations on the downfall of the “homeland” while sucking on the tax free tit of some filthy dictatorship

 

[PTK]

No, I’m not sure what you’re getting at. What about British Gentlemen, afternoon tea, and Oxford-Cambridge? What do you mean?

The Oxford-Cambridge railway line is about to be re-opened. Perhaps Oxbridge students will once more be allowed to vote twice in General Elections.

I went for afternoon tea a couple of years ago as a birthday treat, but what has happened to jumpers for goalposts, warm beer, and District Nurses on bicycles? No-one even bends their little finger any more as they sip tea from their cup. Why do the men who work in the City of London no longer wear bowler hats? What became of the telephone call box? Why can we no longer smoke on the London Underground?

 

[ouirdeaux]

I fucking hate expat brits and their fucking ruminations on the downfall of the “homeland” while sucking on the tax free tit of some filthy dictatorship

I take everything this substandard troll posts with a pinch of salt.

 

[PTK]

I take everything this substandard troll posts with a pinch of salt.

We're not allowed salt these days, since apparently high blood pessure is not "woke". What happened to the Bread and Dripping of yesteryear?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I hear next year they are replacing the cheese in cheese rolling with jackfruit to appease both vegans and foreigners

 

[editor]

You're welcome to say that, but I don't think it resolves anything.

Race and culture are heavily intertwined. I dare say they're practically indistinguishable. Look at Britain: if you go to predominately Indian areas the food, the decorations, the clothing, the music, the dances, the celebrations. These are all in the Indian style. Same for Chinese areas, Pakistani areas, Balkan areas, etc etc.

It just feels like the "British areas" are getting smaller and smaller here. And are there "British areas" in other countries? I've never seen any.

But not the architecture, the infrastructure, the services, place names, the buses etc etc. All as 'British' as they've ever been.

 

[editor]

I used to just instinctively snap and call 'racist' on people who ever brought this kind of stuff up too before, but idk. Ever since I went away and came back again, I guess I just feel like a foreigner here as much as I did abroad, really. Maybe I just built up an idealised idea of Britain whilst I was away.

Were you away for about 75 years? Or 500 years? Britain has always been a melting pot of cultures, right from the time when the original Britons (i.e. the Welsh) came under attack from Germanic tribes.

And curry has been one of our most cherished national dishes for the last 40 years at least.

Following World War II, curry became even more popular in Britain owing to the large number of immigrants from South Asia. Curry has become an integral part of British cuisine, so much so that, since the late 1990s, chicken tikka masala has been referred to as "a true British national dish".

 

[BigMoaner]

I fucking hate expat brits and their fucking ruminations on the downfall of the “homeland” while sucking on the tax free tit of some filthy dictatorship

Complaining about immigrants whilst being an immigrant is never a great look.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Fish and chips. They're white. Churches. They're white. Pubs. They're white. Buckingham Palace. White. Fox hunting. White. Black pudding. White. Greensleaves. White. Blue skies. White. Earl Grey tea. White.

Except they're not. Nothing much is white apart from bird shit. And even that's got bits in it.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Makes a chance to have a racist from the north of England I suppose, after the southern England independence type who’s visited a few times

I’ve often wondered how their manifesto launch went. Perhaps they could link up with Olive and form a national organisation?

 

[Saul Goodman]

I fucking hate expat brits and their fucking ruminations on the downfall of the “homeland” while sucking on the tax free tit of some filthy dictatorship

I knew a prick who emigrated to Spain and was exactly like this. Moaning about foreigners invading Britain, and too fucking thick to realise how thick he was.

 

[PR1Berske]

Why is it wrong to worry about losing white cultur

Like... where is my people's country

Uh-huh.

 

[Sue]

I fucking hate expat brits and their fucking ruminations on the downfall of the “homeland” while sucking on the tax free tit of some filthy didictatorship

But what do you really think...?

 

[pseudonarcissus]

But what do you really think...?

I'm just keeping my head down.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

this just showed up on my Facebook.. OliveGreen , you can buy a whole street of British nostalgia and erect it in your barn...all fake of course, and a bit narrow for Morris dancing, but you can staff it with the right types.

 

[PR1Berske]

To attempt some kind of fairness to OliveGreen , British culture has been given its obituary pretty much every year for hundreds of years. There's nothing quite so British as complaining that the Britain of an imaginary past has, well, passed. So my childhood memories include my grandparents' complaints about television being better in the "old days"; and the "old days" of the 1960s were already being romanticised; and the fading days of Empire were supposedly ending the "rule the waves" supremacy etc

So no, the Britain of today isn't the stuff you could get from a Victoria Wood sketch. No nation is bound to an anchor in some imagined or arbitrary year of your choosing. I'm certain that you could ask, say, black British teenagers to compare and contrast their experience with that of their grandparents and get enough evidence to consider that the past will always be another country and none of us (of any culture, faith or background) have a visa to go back there.

 

[PR1Berske]

To what extent do you think that neoliberalism has washed away pre-existing cultures and replaced them with dead eyed consumerism and anomic displays of consumption? How has the monetisation and recuperation of working class culture contributed to affairs? To what extent are all cultures in late capitalist economies being erased, scrubbed and compelled to worship the market? Finally, the English culture you describe is unrecognisable to the one I grew up in. To what extent do you believe it existed and where and when? Is it/was it ever the dominant culture? How do you think culture is formed and maintained?

Love

 

[Ax^]

. is it just me worried about Britain losing it's culture?

British culture ,do you mean like Morris Dancing

bunch of daft twats dancing round a may pole

Nah fuck em