Ireland - newcomers and the far right

[Aladdin]

Thank you

And??

 

[RevolutionSound]

And??

And what?

 

[Aladdin]

And what?

You basically called me out in a post.
So now you have the information you were already supplied with..
You could be a human being and say something?? Like .. that validated Aladdins post thanks.

 

[RevolutionSound]

You basically called me out in a post.
So now you have the information you were already supplied with..
You could be a human being and say something?? Like .. that validated Aladdins post thanks.

I asked for a better source. Saul Goodman provided one.

Stop taking everything so personally.

 

[Aladdin]

Never mind.

Fact is... Ireland is fucked.
We cannot afford to house anyone.

 

[Aladdin]

Stop taking everything so personally.

What do you mean "everything"? I've never encountered you before so what's that about?

You didnt like the source you were given because it was Ukrainian. But the info was legitimate. You could have found other sources yourself just as you found the info on direct provision.

 

[RevolutionSound]

You didnt like the source you were given because it was Ukrainian. But the info was legitimate. You could have found it yourself just as you found the info on direct provision.

Whatever

 

[Aladdin]

Whatever

 

[krtek a houby]

Black children in Ireland most likely to face racial abuse

Black children in Ireland at greatest risk of racist abuse, report finds

Racism against black, African people in Ireland third highest in Europe and on the rise, EU report finds

www.irishtimes.com

 

[Orang Utan]

We cannot afford to house anyone.

This is not true. Same as the UK.
We just choose not to.

 

[Aladdin]

This is not true. Same as the UK.
We just choose not to.

No. We literally dont have the housing. We are not like the UK. We are a much much smaller country that has traditionally relied on farming more than any industry.
So no..we actually dont have the housing. There are efforts to increase the number of state building schemes but they are nowhere near enough. The building sector left during the crash in 2008 and never really recovered.
So we are not at all like the UK.

 

[Aladdin]

This is not true. Same as the UK.
We just choose not to.

Also...many young people now are staying in their parents homes into their 30s bevause they cannot afford rent elsewhere and lack of rental accommodation and they cannot get a mortgage.

 

[Orang Utan]

No. We literally dont have the housing. We are not like the UK. We are a much much smaller country that has traditionally relied on farming more than any industry.
So no..we actually dont have the housing. There are efforts to increase the number of state building schemes but they are nowhere near enough. The building sector left during the crash in 2008 and never really recovered.
So we are not at all like the UK.

Western Europe is rich as fuck and can afford to build more houses

 

[Orang Utan]

Also...many young people now are staying in their parents homes into their 30s bevause they cannot afford rent elsewhere and lack of rental accommodation and they cannot get a mortgage.

Doesn’t mean that ‘we’ cannot afford to house them either

 

[Orang Utan]

‘We’ better get ready as huge parts of the world are soon to become unliveable in, so housing the current dribble of refugees will be good practice for the even more pressing housing needs for the future’.

 

[Aladdin]

‘We’ better get ready as huge parts of the world are soon to become unliveable in, so housing the current dribble of refugees will be good practice for the even more pressing housing needs for the future’.

Ireland is well on the way to most cities being submerged within 30 years. Not a good bet.

 

[Elpenor]

Ireland is well on the way to most cities being submerged within 30 years. Not a good bet.

You’re a few posts from going full great replacement

 

[Aladdin]

You’re a few posts from going full great replacement

What do you mean?

 

[krtek a houby]

Ireland is well on the way to most cities being submerged within 30 years. Not a good bet.

Do you mean the climate crisis???

 

[Orang Utan]

It’s certainly worrying that even established Urbanites are now employing the rhetoric of the far right.

 

[Aladdin]

Do you mean the climate crisis???

Yes. Where I live is due to flood within 30 years. And Cork.. most of Galway..

 

[Aladdin]

It’s certainly worrying that even established Urbanites are now employing the rhetoric of the far right.

No idea what you mean?? I'm talking about flooding... water ..

 

[Orang Utan]

No idea what you mean?? I'm talking about flooding... water ..

The past few pages, not the climate stuff

 

[krtek a houby]

Students also facing discrimination, especially in Dublin.

Racism experienced by two-thirds of international students in Ireland, ICOS report shows

Almost two-thirds of international students in Ireland have experienced or witnessed racism, and only one in ten incidents are reported to the authorities.

www.internationalstudents.ie

Not many reporting it to the filth, which is hardly surprising given their response.

 

[ddraig]

You still haven't provided a source for all asylum seekers(not just Ukrainians!!!!) being given 300 euros a week despite me asking a few times now, why is that? Is it not true Aladdin ?

 

[Aladdin]

You still haven't provided a source for all asylum seekers(not just Ukrainians!!!!) being given 300 euros a week despite me asking a few times now, why is that? Is it not true Aladdin ?

Ive already answered you 7 times.

 

[ddraig]

Ive already answered you 7 times.

No you haven't you keep posting the same links!

 

[ddraig]

We certainly have taken in over 100000 people from the war zone that is Ukraine. They're in hotels, nursing homes, hostels, people's own homes, and in the past 2 years thousands and thousands of people have been coming into Ireland from international areas such as Iraq, Syria, African countries and more.
There are 1000s of Irish homeless for over 10 years. 3500 homeless Irish children are living in hostels or hotel rooms with their entire family.

There are fewer GPs now than ever. Hospitals are unable to cope with numbers. Elderly patients who USED to be able to leave hospital and go to step down nursing home accommodation while recovering..are now unable to leave hospitals...because NURSING homes have been taken over for asylum seeker accommodation.
So these elderly people ALL of whom worked their entire lives and paid taxes for whatever services we have..are stuck in hospital beds. This means they dont leave. This is creating another crisis for sick people who need a hospital bed. Knock on effect is A and Es are overcrowded with the latest figures of over 36 hours waiting to be admitted to a hospital bed. People are dying because of this.
Up to a few weeks ago all asylum seekers in Ireland were getting more money per week than Irish people on the disability allowance. We have paid out massively... our community services are suffering. We have young Irish people leaving to try to have a better life rather than living at home until they are in their 30s. I mean...with respect krtek a houby
the situation is really bad. Irish tax payers and Irisb families have paid thousands to educate their children into necessary careers. We need Irish nurses and doctors to stay here. Their education has been paid for and subsidised massively by the state...by us..tax payers. We cannot afford to be educating people who then leave because they cannot afford to pay the rents or get a morgage here. It's crazy that this is happening and then the country is supposed to turn around and give each asylum seeker...nearly €300 a week...along with practically free accommodation and food and free health care..free education...free clothing....free everything. Many Ukrainians were getting all that and also working..getting paid under the table...
Whereas an Irish homeless family could expect to be left on a list waiting years for a home and have no chance of work with no permanent address. An ordinary Irish worker aged 25 is unable to pay rent in Dublin or get a mortgage.

As for the damage done to tents along the canal in Dublin..
People have been attacked on those canals for decades... They're not safe to walk at night. Even as a child I knew that the Dublin Canals were tricky and dangerous to be on and we always steered clear...even in the daytime.

As for Barrett?? Nobody gives a toss about him. He's a big old loud mouth with zero clout... in a party with zero elected representatives. He's going nowhere.

You may be reading a few nutters online but honestly I suspect they're all out of the same half litre pot posting under multiple names. Barrett has zero real following. He's a one trick pony that nobody wants.

By the way there are some really serious criminals now in the country and we have our own home grown gangland criminals too. Saw that some Dublin gangland criminal has been joining those anti migrant protests..ramping things up. These guy's have no political allegiance whatsover. They're just murderous scumbags out for a fight and to maintain control of their illegal empires.

We haven't a hope of being able to manage the shitstorm that will happen. Unarmed gardaí expected to deal with gangs carrying AK 47s. We don't even have a fully equipped army. The Black Axe gangs are here in every city now.
And the IRA is disbanded and has handed in their weapons for years. So .. when the eastern european gangs that are here a while , and the Nigerian gangs that are around since 2017, start fighting with the big Irish gangland criminals....we will have some shitstorm. I dont believe for one second any of that will be caused by "Fascism". It will be from gangs wanting the malicious control of land, gangland turf, illegal wealth and illegal drugs. Ordinary people from all denominations will suffer as a result.

. It's crazy that this is happening and then the country is supposed to turn around and give each asylum seeker...nearly €300 a week...along with practically free accommodation and food and free health care..free education...free clothing....free everything

This is what you posted, it's not true is it, why say it and repeat false information?

 

[Aladdin]

This is what you posted, it's not true is it, why say it and repeat false information?

So you got the same answer 7 times. Saul actually posted links you can look at too.

There is nothing false. Every one of 100000 asylum seekers got 220 cash per week and a medical card and free accommodation.and food..valued upwards of 300 and more.

The direct provision situation is very different thing and has been around for ar least 20 years. We have historically had small numbers in direct provision
They have not received much money at all... Only getting 38 euros a week. It caused a lot of controversy.. pretty racist that one group got so much more than another group.

Now I am not going to be replying anymore. You've stalked me through this thread trying to get me to say I made an error. Fact is 220 plus medical card and free accommodation does add up to more than 300 a week.

Now kindly fuck off.

Btw.. you're now on ignore. Which is a pity cos I like your cat.

 

[bcuster]

No you haven't you keep posting the same links!

But it contains the same info confirmed by another poster's separate link