A great human being, is Christy.
He'd never use the term, for certain.
He'd never use the term, for certain.
"The UK and Ireland"
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Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Yeah. I member his last tour of the Atlantic archipelago.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Aren't the azores an Atlantic archipelago? And the Falklands. Not to mention the faeroes etc
andysays
Love and solidarity
Calling the British Isles "these islands" is even more vague and frankly arrogant than calling them the Atlantic Archipelago.
Just because you're obsessed with something doesn't make it the centre of the earth around which everything and everyone else orbit.
andysays
Love and solidarity
There are literally dozens of Atlantic archipelagoes, but krtek a houby arrogantly dismisses them by referring to the British Isles as the Atlantic archipelago.
Some people apparently just can't shake off their colonialist mindset...
Every accusation is an admission with you.
Why bring in Japan first, specifically, though?
You do this a lot, for some bizarre reason.
This is the Ireland forum.
Sure.
And as you know, in Ireland we don't use the term "British Isles", hence the alternatives used and agreed upon outside of the UK. Some more popular than others.
It's a shame that some British people (not your good self!) can't and won't accept that Ireland is not belonging to the UK, politically and geographically.
Dáil Éireann - Volume 606 - 28 September, 2005 - Written Answers - Official Terms.
http://www.oireachtas-debates.gov.ie/tocD.0606.20050928.html
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Dáil Éireann - Volume 606 - 28 September, 2005
Written Answers - Official Terms.
593. Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs if there is an official Government or Department of Foreign Affairs position on the use of the term British Isles when referring to Ireland and Britain; if the use of this term by Government agencies and the media in Britain is discouraged in any way by his Department; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [24442/05]
Mr. D. Ahern: The British Isles is not an officially recognised term in any legal or inter-governmental sense. It is without any official status. The Government, including the Department of Foreign Affairs, does not use this term.
Our officials in the Embassy of Ireland, London, continue to monitor the media in Britain for any abuse of the official terms as set out in the [406] Constitution of Ireland and in legislation. These include the name of the State, the President, Taoiseach and others.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Our European (in the physical geographical sense) property and casualty insurance business at work is divided into three primary management clusters — multinational, Continental Europe and UK & Ireland. So I certainly recognise the term. Each country has its own separate management structure too, but clustering countries together is part of the hierarchical management style.
The benefit of the UKI/CE split is that (multinational aside) UK is about half the revenue. Ireland is only a small part of the total, so from a revenue point of view it doesn’t really matter where it is put. However, from a people point of view it makes way more sense to manage it together with its geographically closest and linguistically compatible neighbour, rather than expecting it to be controlled by those whose primary focus is really France, Germany and Italy.
The benefit of the UKI/CE split is that (multinational aside) UK is about half the revenue. Ireland is only a small part of the total, so from a revenue point of view it doesn’t really matter where it is put. However, from a people point of view it makes way more sense to manage it together with its geographically closest and linguistically compatible neighbour, rather than expecting it to be controlled by those whose primary focus is really France, Germany and Italy.
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Silas Loom
A lome the lenthe of a yerde
And once an MNC has decided to treat UK&I as a unified accounting region, it makes even more sense to establish its local HQ in that region’s most favourable tax jurisdiction. So the people who do best out of it are the Irish.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
What's that all about, eh?
When did the two separate countries become joined at the fucking hip?
And if it has to be a thing, why not "Ireland and the UK"?
Well, I suppose it´s a step up from the once common "the British Isles."
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Definitely so. Here in Spain, you often have stories on the news from Venezuela, Mexico and even Ecuador, which I have to ascribe to them being Spanish-speaking countries.
Similarly, when the queen died, the UK media concentrated on the "reaction" from USA, Australia and New Zealand far more than non-English speaking countries. Here, on the local news, we got the reaction from the president of the Comunidad de Murcia, something which UK networks failed to pick up on.
Definitely so. Here in Spain, you often have stories on the news from Venezuela, Mexico and even Ecuador, which I have to ascribe to them being Spanish-speaking countries.
Similarly, when the queen died, the UK media concentrated on the "reaction" from USA, Australia and New Zealand far more than non-English speaking countries. Here, on the local news, we got the reaction from the president of the Comunidad de Murcia, something which UK networks failed to pick up on.
When the Queen died, did the UK media focus on any reaction from Ireland?
There is IONA, but thats controversial for reasons of exclusion regarding other archipelagos as others have hepfully pointed out.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
But Earth rotates from west to east, so UK comes first. Every day.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
I doubt that most of the reaction from Ireland would have been consistent with the "mourning" tone required of the mainstream UK news networks.
It would be a niche thing, certainly. A very niche thing.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Charlie Haughey favoured IONA, or "Isles of the North Atlantic".
Unfortunately it sounds like David Quinn's lot
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
There's a Mike Scott song (i.e. he released it under his own name, not as "The Waterboys") with the same title.
E2A:
A possible national anthem for the future Socialist Federation of the Isles of the North Atlantic?
The Celtic Union of Nation Types
