independence for Greenland?

[moochedit]

I hope we have a Greenlander lurker here who reads my post and takes note of what a serious threat a bullying nation poses to a small, unprotected nation that has vast wealth

Thank god trumps here to stop all that

 

[Saul Goodman]

What about access to the protection of the US Navy?, as opposed to, for instance, the Danish puddle patrol force?

That's like becoming a member of the Crips, so you can get protection from the Bloods when they attack the Crips

 

[Elpenor]

Greenland should become part of Russia

 

[moochedit]

That's like becoming a member of the Crips, so you can get protection from the Bloods when they attack the Crips

Trumps new head of nato.....

 

[ska invita]

Lammys been briefed and is up for it as it's in the interests of the "global" (lol) community



Increasingly looks like it's going to happen

 

[moochedit]

Greenland should become part of Russia

Trump can sell it to them after he buys it from Denmark. Everybodys happy

 

[brogdale]

Gonna strap it to the back of my fucking trawler.

Curiously, the Isle of Sheppey (41,000) is one of the places in the world with a smaller population than Greenland (57,000).

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Didn't they ban beer until about 20 years ago? That might be a false memory.

Yes. it's not all good.

 

[PTK]

Curiously, the Isle of Sheppey (41,000) is one of the places in the world with a smaller population than Greenland (57,000).

But far larger than the popualtion of the Falklands/Malvinas.

 

[PTK]

Yes. it's not all good.

They now have television broadcasting on a Thursday. Which I think is a shame.

 

[moochedit]

They now have television broadcasting on a Thursday. Which I think is a shame.

Is nothing sacred anymore?

 

[The39thStep]

Greenland should become part of Russia

Only if it offers Russia and the global community national economic security as they are a serious issue

 

[pogofish]

I think that Greenland would have to take advantage of the 2009 self-rule law and formally declare full independence from Denmark before entering into any agreement with the Trump administration.

This is the same law that effectively gave the US military their marching orders. Apart from one base, a hugely reduced presence operated primarily as an early warning/communications station under the NATO umbrella.

So it could be seen that they have already indicated a preference on that one.

Although the same law did reserve foreign policy to Denmark, the way the Danes work it is that Greenland is given significant consultative input/involvement on any decisions that might affect it. So yes, it is as near as it can get to independent whilst remaining a Danish territory.

 

[Yossarian]

Unlike the people of Guam, American Samoa, the US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and even Washington, DC, Greenland has representatives with voting power in the national legislature

 

[kenny g]

Presumably a special relationship with Greenland would have to be toasted with a Danish special brew. Maybe time for Trump to jump off the wagon and go for the full throttle Carlsberg option.

 

[tim]

One thing i can think of is, I don't know what denmarks healthcare system is like but i suspect its better than americas. Then again i don't know if they have access to it.

As mentioned by me above many women from Greenland were fitted with IUDs as teenagers without either their consent or knowledge by the Danish health care for eugenics purposes.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

As mentioned by me above many women from Greenland were fitted with IUDs as teenagers without either their consent or knowledge by the Danish health care for eugenics purposes.

Yes. A disgusting scandal, but it is in the past. It isn't necessarily a reason for independence now.

 

[tim]

Name one. And please don't waffle about the military. The only country Greenland is threatened by militarily is the US itself.

The US is already the only serious military presence on the island and has been since WWII when the island was occupied by the US whilst Denmark itself was occupied by the Nazis.

 

[brogdale]

The US is already the only serious military presence on the island and has been since WWII when the island was occupied by the US whilst Denmark itself was occupied by the Nazis.

No doubt Putin will advise Trump on the value of exploiting the denazification line to justify annexation.

 

[Elpenor]

The US is already the only serious military presence on the island and has been since WWII when the island was occupied by the US whilst Denmark itself was occupied by the Nazis.

Have the occupying American forces committed any atrocities? Believe that’s their normal MO

 

[tim]

Yes. A disgusting scandal, but it is in the past. It isn't necessarily a reason for independence now.

It happened to women younger than me, which means I can't see it as the distant past. The best argument for independence US that polls show that over 60% of the population want it.

 

[moochedit]

Have the occupying American forces committed any atrocities? Believe that’s their normal MO

Lost a nuke.

 

[Elpenor]

Did they try looking Here?

 

[tim]

Lost a nuke.

Four nuclear bombs but only one is still somewhere under the ice. The remains of the others were recovered with the help of locals and their dogsleds.

Inuit played a major role in the response. Their dogsleds were the fastest way to reach the crash site. Major General R.O. Hunziker, the on-scene commander, observed the irony that “one of man’s most technically complex endeavours had gone astray and that recovery from its effects must depend upon the most primitive of methods.”

The Crash, The Inuit, And The Bomb

When a top-secret U.S. jet went down near Nunavut, it left a mystery: is there a nuke beneath the ice?

www.uphere.ca

 

[moochedit]

. The best argument for independence US that polls show that over 60% of the population want it.

There may be a referendum on independence in april.

Greenland’s leader wants independence from Denmark as Trump hovers over Arctic island

“It is now time to take the next step for our country,” Greenlandic Prime Minister Múte Egede says in hinting at 2025 referendum.

www.politico.eu

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It happened to women younger than me, which means I can't see it as the distant past. The best argument for independence US that polls show that over 60% of the population want it.

Polls from a few years ago. And there was also this poll in 2017:

78 percent of those surveyed in a survey in the newspaper Sermitsiaq said no to independence if it means going down in living standards,

Redaktør: Grønlændere vil ikke ofre levestandard for selvstændighed

Circumstances change. Even those polls supporting independence advocate a process rather than it happening overnight.

As ever, though, there is the question as to what exactly independence means for tiny nations with hostile neighbours. As I said above, a nominally independent Greenland could find itself with less say over its own affairs than it has now.

 

[moochedit]

As ever, though, there is the question as to what exactly independence means for tiny nations with hostile neighbours. As I said above, a nominally independent Greenland could find itself with less say over its own affairs than it has now.

They need to find that nuke

 

[moochedit]

As ever, though, there is the question as to what exactly independence means for tiny nations with hostile neighbours. As I said above, a nominally independent Greenland could find itself with less say over its own affairs than it has now.

You may be right but it's their choice.

 

[Aladdin]

I think it has oil?

Rare earth metals.

Greenland is strategic innit..

Russia would love to take Greenland if they could. The routes around it through the arctic circle are handy for Russian ships.

"The Arctic is a zone of our national interests, our strategic interests," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, sounding protective, when asked about the US president-elect's recent remarks."

Russia is alarmed by Trump's Greenland plan - but it could work in the Kremlin's favour

Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to seize the world's largest island, and the Kremlin's concern is no surprise, given the Arctic's growing economic and geopolitical significance to Moscow.

news.sky.com

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You may be right but it's their choice.

Sure. I didn't say otherwise, but I still strongly suspect that the latest developments make them making that choice less rather than more likely.