DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
just another coat of kiwi buffed up and he's ready to roll
Why did you misuse this article? I asked first.Dear butchersapron , redsquirrel , andysays :
Do any of you have an opinion on the article we are discussing? (I mean an opinion that is not about bimble. )
Three men sentenced for petty crimes at New Year’s event in Cologne, Germany - World Socialist Web Site
I was trying hard to elicit an opinion out of you for a reason,out of respect, because i thought that your refusal to comment on that wankstain of an article meant something. Your refusal to engage is sad.
Dear butchersapron , redsquirrel , andysays :
Do any of you have an opinion on the article we are discussing? (I mean an opinion that is not about bimble. )
Three men sentenced for petty crimes at New Year’s event in Cologne, Germany - World Socialist Web Site
People have already expressed their opinions, maybe not ones you like or agree with, but their opinions none the less.
Interesting that you've gone so seamlessly from misrepresenting the article to misrepresenting what's being said on the thread, all the time whining that we're making it about you. Perhaps you think if you repeat these lies often enough, people will start to believe them.
andy, that great response above does it refer to the hundreds of women , the police, or both?
You disgust me.
& no people eg butchers have not expressed any option at all about the article having been asked many times.
On New Year’s Eve itself, around 100 complaints were received by the police, mainly of sex crimes and pickpocketing, a magnitude of incidents that fully corresponds to other such large-scale events. Only in subsequent days, when the first reports of rapes, sexual offences and thefts spread in the press, did the number of complaints rise rapidly.
Most complaints were filed after January 4. By January 11, the figure stood at 550. Cologne’s police now report 1,100 complaints related to New Year’s Eve. But according to the police, less than half, around 440, relate to a sex crime.
Even representatives of the state prosecutor and police have expressed doubts about how many of the complaints were based on criminal offences. Given the vast press campaign, it cannot be excluded that some were vastly exaggerated or were the result of anti-immigrant sentiments. Social media sites are full of such propaganda tirades.
“In one case, the police have confirmed that the sexual crime alleged in the complaint did not take place as was claimed,” a spokesman for the state prosecutor told the Huffington Post. And Rainer Wendt, the chairman of the German police trade union and hardly known as a “friend of foreigners,” was cited as stating, “Several of the alleged sexual crimes by refugees are inventions.”
Andy, can you explain why you suspect the police leaked an exaggerated / embellished report of sexual assault ? To make themselves look good when they managed to apprehend a single suspect?
Which one are you ? The one teaming up with the Stalinist and waffling on about Trotsky.Airbrushing people out of an event has many historical examples...
Airbrushing people out of an event has many historical examples...
The article doesn't just say that women were encouraged to come forward by looking at far-right social media, it says that an unknown number of them were just outright lying when they told the police stories of sexual abuse. It even goes so far as to point out, meaningfully, that in the case of the two alleged rapes, nobody has been caught, suggesting what exactly? Not that they got away with it, oh no.If what he's saying is true then you'd expect (for example) far-right social media activity after the event encouraging women to come forward and say they were sexually assaulted or robbed.
Or make up something about what it says to further an already ruined position. Oh no.The article doesn't just say that women were encouraged to come forward by looking at far-right social media, it says that an unknown number of them were just outright lying when they told the police stories of sexual abuse. It even goes so far as to observe that, in the case of the two alleged rapes, nobody has been caught, suggesting what exactly? Not that they got away with it, oh no.
I don't understand how anyone could read that thing and come away not understanding what it is saying.
The article doesn't just say that women were encouraged to come forward by looking at far-right social media, it says that an unknown number of them were just outright lying when they told the police stories of sexual abuse. It even goes so far as to point out, meaningfully, that in the case of the two alleged rapes, nobody has been caught, suggesting what exactly? Not that they got away with it, oh no.
I don't understand how anyone could read that thing and come away not understanding what it is saying.
what? You clearly have no opinion on the article at all, so I'm not sue why you're interested in having a go at me for stating mine.Or make up something about what it says to further an already ruined position. Oh no.
Like what?Or make up something about what it says ...
I'm very interested in the use you try to put it to, and how you try to do it.what? You clearly have no opinion on the article at all, so I'm not sue why you're interested in having a go at me for stating mine.
That's a lie, isn't it?I'm very interested in the use you try to put it to, and how you try to do it.
I think the use that you tried to put it to, evidenced by you actually doing it last night, argues against that. No use, no none at all.I'm not trying to put that piece of writing to any use at all.
What use would it be to me?
The article says that the whole story of mass sexual assault on NYE is a myth, a fiction perpetrated by women motivated by anti-immigrant sentiment and spread to the media by someone with bad intent inside the police who decided to leak the embellished report to the press.
I am saying that is vile nonsense, that should not be printed in something however fringe which claims to speak for socialists. I would have hoped that you'd agree but you clearly don't.
sounds like a sort of use to meI'm not trying to put that piece of writing to any use at all.
What use would it be to me?
The article says that the whole story of mass sexual assault on NYE is a myth, a fiction perpetrated by women motivated by anti-immigrant sentiment and spread to the media by someone with bad intent inside the police who decided to leak the embellished report to the press.
I am saying that is vile nonsense, which should not be printed in something however fringe which claims to speak for socialists. I would have hoped that you'd agree but you clearly don't.