How has Brexit actually affected you so far?
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
so you can dunk and swallow in one fluid movement now? already the efficiencies of brexit make themselves apparent
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
An update on previous posts I've made on this thread that I can't find. Brexit still has not affected me in any way that I can measure or detect.
collectordave
Active Member
Still waiting for the effects here. Just a few things changed. HP sauce (made in Netherlands not britain) is now a little cheaper. Council tax went down to 12 euros for the whole year, price of diesel still cheaper than britain and following the barrel price.
The fall in the value of the pound has had an effect, I had to stay home and watch a dvd one day instead of going to the beach.
Not much else!
The fall in the value of the pound has had an effect, I had to stay home and watch a dvd one day instead of going to the beach.
Not much else!
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
It hasn't, and won't.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Does great great grandfather count? He hailed from Carrickfergus.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
the £ has now fallen to £1.08 Euro, losing 3% of its value in the last month. That's 3% that our equipment costs have gone up in the last month, nearly 30% increase since the end of 2015.
At the end of 2015 the government reset the tariffs paid for solar PV with something like and 65% cut in the feed in tariff based on pricing at that point. Somehow they seem to have forgotten to raise the tariffs again to compensate for the Brexit related 30% increase in our equipment costs.
At the end of 2015 the government reset the tariffs paid for solar PV with something like and 65% cut in the feed in tariff based on pricing at that point. Somehow they seem to have forgotten to raise the tariffs again to compensate for the Brexit related 30% increase in our equipment costs.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
One would have thought that the panels would be coming from China, everything else seems to.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
even if it does it's almost always priced in Euros. The UK is too small a market comparatively for them to keep GBP accounts running / even if they do it's still priced in Euros and converted at the previous day's closing exchange rate.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Again, one would have expected the transactions to be in $US, as the Euro is a global pygmy in world terms. Not the $US pricing would have helped yo much either, unfortunately. I'm dealing almost exclusively with Australia at the moment, best value.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Why is everything about money?
Pretty sure that in the 70's and at least until the late-ish 80's reports of things were about the thing, then Thatcher and bosh; it snowed today, that cost the economy x£, a strike is happening, that'll cost the economy such an amount and so on, it wasn't always that, was it?
Brexit, why is it all about the Benjamins?
It's fucking bonkers, the Guardian makes out they and their readers give a fuck about social justice, but are apoplectic about a % drop in the £ against the $ or €.
People who consider themselves lefties bleat about exchange rates, tariffs and so on.
These people are mostly well meaning, but seemed to have lost the ability to value anything beyond the monetary value. That's quite upsetting.
Pretty sure that in the 70's and at least until the late-ish 80's reports of things were about the thing, then Thatcher and bosh; it snowed today, that cost the economy x£, a strike is happening, that'll cost the economy such an amount and so on, it wasn't always that, was it?
Brexit, why is it all about the Benjamins?
It's fucking bonkers, the Guardian makes out they and their readers give a fuck about social justice, but are apoplectic about a % drop in the £ against the $ or €.
People who consider themselves lefties bleat about exchange rates, tariffs and so on.
These people are mostly well meaning, but seemed to have lost the ability to value anything beyond the monetary value. That's quite upsetting.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
because these things have real world consequences in terms of the jobs lost, real world value of wages etc.
As an example, here's the UK bankruptcy stats showing a big spike in bankruptcies in the latter half of last year, which I'm pretty sure will be largely down to the brexit impact on exchange rates and companies slashing their capital spending.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
You might be right but is there any evidence ?because these things have real world consequences in terms of the jobs lost, real world value of wages etc.
As an example, here's the UK bankruptcy stats showing a big spike in bankruptcies in the latter half of last year, which I'm pretty sure will be largely down to the brexit impact on exchange rates and companies slashing their capital spending.
bemused
Well-Known Member
Worth noting the bankruptcy rules changed in April 2016. Replacing the old system where you had to go to court to an online method which was simpler. The cost also dropped £50.
It may simply be the case that many people held off waiting for the simpler, cheaper, process.
pocketscience
Well-Known Member
Was it brexit that made everyone register thier enterprises in the first place?because these things have real world consequences in terms of the jobs lost, real world value of wages etc.
As an example, here's the UK bankruptcy stats showing a big spike in bankruptcies in the latter half of last year, which I'm pretty sure will be largely down to the brexit impact on exchange rates and companies slashing their capital spending.
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Looked into this recently out of interest because my mum was applying - iirc your parent would have to have been registered on the foreign births registry before you were born, and your grandparent before your parent was born. Although there might be different rules for people born hundreds of years ago
free spirit
more tea vicar?
But the spike was in the autumn not the spring.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It takes 4 to 6 months for the discharge to come through though, so the spike in autumn fits perfectly.
eta, and look at the historic low just before the changes come in.
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Presumably this 'real world' didn't exist pre-Thatcher then. This 'real world' that doesn't concern itself with social justice because it knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
tbh I was responding to a claim that I'm pretty sure was false in the first place. These sorts of economic indicators have been discussed in the press and politics for a long time, way before Thatcher, as the example below shows.
UK Devaluation of Sterling 1967 | Economics Help
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
I can offer some anecdotal effects. A friend and her partner both lecture in Manchester U, they're Irish. She teaches German. Between their own EU status, they're completely uncertain as to whether or not they can stay, plus she's concerned how her course will work because there's so much interdependence with EU bodies and universities on the continent.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
free spirit
Blow me down with a feather! Capitalism existed before 1970?
I think the point Bahnhof Strasse was trying to make, at least the one I'm joining in with, is that 'society' existed before Thatcher said it didn't, and that 'things' were reported more with a social bent rather than through pure economics. For sure, I've always been pissed off at the amount of time "pound down against the dollar, FTSE up 27 points" has been given time or prominence on the news but, remembering the 70's, it's pretty undeniable to me that people mattered slightly more as people, rather than as commodities.
A bit like how we had adverts for things people actually needed (like, erm, fish fingers) rather than constant fucking life assurance ads.
Blow me down with a feather! Capitalism existed before 1970?
I think the point Bahnhof Strasse was trying to make, at least the one I'm joining in with, is that 'society' existed before Thatcher said it didn't, and that 'things' were reported more with a social bent rather than through pure economics. For sure, I've always been pissed off at the amount of time "pound down against the dollar, FTSE up 27 points" has been given time or prominence on the news but, remembering the 70's, it's pretty undeniable to me that people mattered slightly more as people, rather than as commodities.
A bit like how we had adverts for things people actually needed (like, erm, fish fingers) rather than constant fucking life assurance ads.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
free spirit
Blow me down with a feather! Capitalism existed before 1970?
I think the point Bahnhof Strasse was trying to make, at least the one I'm joining in with, is that 'society' existed before Thatcher said it didn't, and that 'things' were reported more with a social bent rather than through pure economics. For sure, I've always been pissed off at the amount of time "pound down against the dollar, FTSE up 27 points" has been given time or prominence on the news but, remembering the 70's, it's pretty undeniable to me that people mattered slightly more as people, rather than as commodities.
A bit like how we had adverts for things people actually needed (like, erm, fish fingers) rather than constant fucking life assurance ads.
Precisely.
Of course economics existed pre-Thatcher, but this constant obsession with how this or that event will affect share prices and so on, is fairly new and utterly irrelevant to the majority of people who have no capital.
It's arguable (or at least argued) that the UK transitioned from an industrial to a consumerist society at some point between the 1960s and 1980s. One of the features of industrial societies is that the defining freedoms are political -- the right to vote, the right to join trade unions and so on. Whereas the defining freedoms of consumerist societies are market-related -- the right to choose, the right to self-expression through consumption. The way that news is now all presented through the filter of its impact on economics rather than its previous incarnation about its impact on society is bang in line with this transition from industrialism to consumerism.
The Flying Pig
Well-Known Member
Pissing myself laughing at the liberal lefties having hissy fits and being in denial.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I swear every other bank holiday some git from the CBI pops up to say how he has calculated how many millions are lost to business because of the bank holiday. Cunt off.
Well Scrooge McDuck has to wait an extra day before he can deposit his monies (won't someone think of the interest?)
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