Horse Meat found in Tesco Beefburgers

[ymu]

It's just nice to be able to come home and throw some stuff in a saucepan and forget about it until it is time to eat, that's all. Food fetishism is all very well, but time is precious too.

Boiling bacon in place of the beef in a corned beef hash is good too.

 

[Drei]

Bute found in Asda corned beef.

Not good.

i wonder if they tested other brands just to be on safe side?

Boiling bacon in place of the beef in a corned beef hash is good too.

Huh... how do you do this?

 

[ymu]

Corned beef hash is just potatoes and whatever veg you have that needs using up (carrots and cabbage are the best, leftovers fine), in boiling water with the corned beef until the potatoes are soft and the water disappeared, and mashed up a bit. Can be made more delicious by tipping into hot oil in a frying pan for a bit, or into a hot roasting tin and the oven.

Cheap bacon (better boiled than fried sort of bacon) does the same job: adding cheap deliciousness to crappy veg. Needs less salt adding.

 

[8ball]

It sounds horrible to me, kind of like a mutant bubble'n'squeak.

Then again, foie gras also sounds horrible when viewed purely in concept...

 

[joustmaster]

Foie gras hash

 

[Frances Lengel]

IKEA meatballs...from ikealand.

http://news.sky.com/story/1056625/ikea-meatballs-withdrawn-over-horsemeat-fears

That's mint Ikea's for wankers anyway.

 

[Frances Lengel]

I've never understood why people buy cheap corned beef.
Beef, even in its cheapest mashed up state, is very expensive compared to other meats. And for the price, you could buy a lot nicer, less mashed up, other animal.

No such thing as cheap corn beef anymore.

 

[8ball]

Foie gras hash

Don't even say it - Heston Blumenthal could be listening...

 

[ymu]

It sounds horrible to me, kind of like a mutant bubble'n'squeak.

Then again, foie gras also sounds horrible when viewed purely in concept...

It is mutant bubble and squeak. It's for when bubble is all you have to base a meal on, to make it into a main.

Strictly speaking, it is boiled rather than fried though. I just have a bit of a thing about caramelising stuff and it's a useful way to stop it being too soggy without burning the bottom of the saucepan.

 

[The Boy]

Then again, foie gras also sounds horrible when viewed purely in concept...

What the foie?

 

[8ball]

It is mutant bubble and squeak. It's for when bubble is all you have to base a meal on, to make it into a main.

Strictly speaking, it is boiled rather than fried though. I just have a bit of a thing about caramelising stuff and it's a useful way to stop it being too soggy without burning the bottom of the saucepan.

I'm not much of a cook but I think I understood 70% of that.

I like fried things.

 

[Drei]

Corned beef hash is just potatoes and whatever veg you have that needs using up (carrots and cabbage are the best, leftovers fine), in boiling water with the corned beef until the potatoes are soft and the water disappeared, and mashed up a bit. Can be made more delicious by tipping into hot oil in a frying pan for a bit, or into a hot roasting tin and the oven.

Cheap bacon (better boiled than fried sort of bacon) does the same job: adding cheap deliciousness to crappy veg. Needs less salt adding.

I know what it is now... we call it croquettes here
The cheapest i've made so far was with canned tuna, parsley & chopped onion... actually no, i've made plain ones with just potatoes!!! I like the idea of adding cabbage or bacon, i hadn't tried it like that yet

Yeah 8ball i also like fried things

 

[ymu]

I'm not much of a cook but I think I understood 70% of that.

I like fried things.

If you boil the hash pan dry, you can get a nasty sort of bitter burninating which ruins the pan as well as some of the food, if you're not careful. Needs a lot of stirring at the end, which is how you get it mashed up a bit. You don't have to be as careful if you just tip it into a hot frying pan with some oil when it's done but not quite dry enough. And if you want to bake it to golden brown, that works too.

And you get the benefit of the Maillard reaction. (Brown bits.)

/heston

 

[Drei]

not quite croquettes then, but same sort of idea!!! posh people breadcrumb it and deep fry it... whereas people at home mostly do it like the hash description you've given.


EDIT: it is called hash browns here too duhh, it slipped my mind!!! Guerns like it with their english breakfast rather than with a meal...

 

[ymu]

To me, croquettes are just fancy fried mash-sticks that turned up in the 1980s.

 

[8ball]

And you get the benefit of the Maillard reaction. (Brown bits.)

Ah right - the Maillard reaction - that's the thing where you use a really hot pan to seal the flavoursome juices into the meat isn't it?

<runs away laughing maniacally>

 

[Drei]

<runs away laughing maniacally>

 

[ymu]

Ah right - the Maillard reaction - that's the thing where you use a really hot pan to seal the flavoursome juices into the meat isn't it?

<runs away laughing maniacally>

It's the extra tasty bits where the food browns but doesn't burn. The Maillard reaction is just a poncy way to say caramelised, I think, although one may be a technical subset of the other.

EDIT: it is called hash browns here too duhh, it slipped my mind!!! Guerns like it with their english breakfast rather than with a meal...

Ah, OK. Nothing like hash browns.

This is a proper corned beef hash:

 

[Frances Lengel]

It's the extra tasty bits where the food browns but doesn't burn. The Maillard reaction is just a poncy way to say caramelised, I think, although one may be a technical subset of the other.

Ah, OK. Nothing like hash browns.

This is a proper corned beef hash:

That looks nice, but to me it looks nothing like proper corn beef hash - To me proper CBH is a pan of semi-liquid slop - Thick enough to eat off a plate rather than out of a bowl but still, at heart, a liquid.




I know it's corned beef rather than corn beef, but purposefully making myself look ignorant is a thing I take no small amount of pleasure in.

 

[King Biscuit Time]

Fried onions, mashed potato, tin o' beans, tin o' corned beef, cheese on top, half hour in the oven, 4 full up students.

I had some lush corned beed in Mr Thomas's Chop House in Manchester once.

 

[ymu]

I've liked that despite the bean contamination.

They're supposed to go on the side.

 

[Geri]

I used to love corned beef when I was a kid - and spam. I used to go to Spar at dinnertime and just get a 1/4 of it, instead of having a school meal. Then I would save the rest of my money to spend on records.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I suspect there are so many ways of making corn beef hash it could do it's own thread.

Mine is proper unhealthy, so not made it for ages. I shallow fry the the spuds, pour of as much oil as I can and throw in the rest of the ingredients. Add lots of tabasco or hotter sauce.

 

[bi0boy]

We had battered and deep fried spam fritters at school, and corned beef at home.

The only reason we didn't also have spam at home is because my dad "couldn't be bothered to fiddle about opening the wretched tins".

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I don't think I've ever had a spam fritter...I'm guessing it could fall into the wrong but right catergery.

 

[gentlegreen]

20 arrested in horsemeat scandal
December 16, 2013
GENDARMES arrested more than 20 people early this morning in a massive swoop targeting a giant horsemeat-trafficking network across 11 departments.

The dawn raids were carried out in Languedoc-Roussillon, Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur and Midi-Pyrénées as part of an inquiry being run in the wake of the Spanghero scandal where horsemeat was sold as beef.

It is thought horsemeat from animals used in laboratory experiments was involved.

TV station M6 said that meat from nearly 200 horses used for experiments with vaccines and drugs in labs run by Sanofi Pasteur had been sold in butchers across the south of France between 2010 and 2012.

M6 said that a horse trader had bought horses from the pharmaceutical group in Alba-la-Romaine (Ardèche) for €10 and resold them for horsemeat at €300 through an intermediary. Police in Spain were also involved as it was thought a slaughterhouse in Girona was involved.

A butcher in Narbonne was one of the first people arrested this morning.

Speaking on on RTL radio today, Consumer Affairs Minister Benoît Hamon said there was a major risk to public health from the meat, which was unfit for human consumptions and should have been destroyed. He added that the meat and fish industry had been under scrutiny since the Spanghero affair.

http://www.connexionfrance.com/Hors...r-laboratory-Sanofi-Pasteur-view-article.html

Apparently the horses were used not for tests, but for the actual production of vaccines for rabies, tetanus and of antivenum.

Ces chevaux n’étaient pas utilisés pour des tests de laboratoire mais pour fabriquer des médicaments, des «sérums équins purifiés» servant ensuite d’anticorps antirabiques (rage), antitétaniques (tétanos) et antivenimeux, souligne Sanofi Pasteur.

http://www.liberation.fr/economie/2...l-coup-de-filet-dans-onze-departements_966826

 

[Gromit]

So

Apparently the horses were used not for tests, but for the actual production of vaccines for rabies, tetanus and of antivenum.

So eat more horse meat if you want free vaccination against them horrid diseases. Is that your point?

 

[gentlegreen]

I think the technical term is "functional food" !

 

[gentlegreen]

Apparently they were particularly healthy horses, they'd finished producing the special immunoglobulin and it isn't the blood that's eaten ...

http://www.francetvinfo.fr/viande-de-cheval-et-medicaments-quels-dangers-pour-la-sante_484054.html