Horse Meat found in Tesco Beefburgers

[DotCommunist]

Can you buy horse meat in the uk? I wanna try it to see what it's like.

(and before anyone says "tesco" i mean horse meat actually labled as "horse meat" on the packet!)

you can get more or less any met-m theres niche traders who specialise in stuff like ostrich, alligator, kangaroo etc. google


avoid the 'roo its tough as my nans old boots

 

[8ball]

Missing the joke is perfectly understandable - comedy is not my strong point, and you'd need to get the reference (or be able to interpret the use of smilies) to be sure it was a joke.

It's what people reveal about their underlying attitudes in expressing their objection that is interesting. Descending to insults is not a problem, but the choice of insults is often revealing.

I see where you're coming from, though a single choice of word isn't necessarily a signal to being a fully paid up member of a complete worldview.

To quote Dennis Potter - 'the problem with words is that you don't always know whose mouths they have been in'.

 

[ymu]

Guardian offers some more mouth-watering details....



Put that in yer nosebags!

29%?

 

[ymu]

I see where you're coming from, though a single choice of word isn't necessarily a signal to being a fully paid up member of a complete worldview.

To quote Dennis Potter - 'the problem with words is that you don't always know whose mouths they have been in'.

Feminazi is pretty damn clear, no? We have rare but blazing rows where I call my partner a cunt a lot, but never black cunt. I don't needle him about slavery. And I don't call him an uppity nigger, which is the closest racial insult to feminazi.

What would you think of me if I did?

I don't have to self-censor to stop those words coming out. They just would not occur to me however heated the moment was. I think it is very telling when such language is used. That doesn't mean people can't grow the fuck out of such juvenile habits, but if they don't acknowledge the offence and don't apologise, it ain't likely to happen any time soon. They'll be too busy nurturing all that resentment against the all powerful wimmin who are ruining their lives by taking all the money and power and shit.

 

[Buckaroo]

Continuing this thread is futile, it's like flogging a dead horse.

 

[bi0boy]

Feminazi is pretty damn clear, no? We have rare but blazing rows where I call my partner a cunt a lot, but never black cunt. I don't needle him about slavery. And I don't call him an uppity nigger, which is the closest racial insult to feminazi.

What would you think of me if I did?

I don't have to self-censor to stop those words coming out. They just would not occur to me however heated the moment was. I think it is very telling when such language is used. That doesn't mean people can't grow the fuck out of such juvenile habits, but if they don't acknowledge the offence and don't apologise, it ain't likely to happen any time soon. They'll be too busy nurturing all that resentment against the all powerful wimmin who are ruining their lives by taking all the money and power and shit.

Perhaps it was done deliberately to wind you up in response to you plucking suggestions of sexual harassment out of the lunacy bin? And comparing "feminazi" to "uppity nigger" is a bit desperate.

 

[ymu]

Perhaps it was done deliberately to wind you up in response to you plucking suggestions of sexual harassment out of the lunacy bin? And comparing "feminazi" to "uppity nigger" is a bit desperate.

If a black person pisses you off, do you use a racial insult to wind them up? Do your mates direct homophobic insults at you in anger, and if so, are you OK with that?

If you think there is no comparison between the terms, explain why. Show your working.

And read the fucking thread:

Thank you!

The joke might not have been obvious to those not following the Laurie Penny/identity politics thread(s), but smilies were deployed in an attempt to make up for my lack of comedic genius.

The irony is that I've now been accused of precisely the brand of politics I was having a pop at, by someone who appears to subscribe to its mirror image. These accusations are based on simplistic stereotyping of feminism; they bear no relationship to anything I've ever written on these boards. There are lots of brands of feminism around and I am not well read enough on the subject to have a name for the one I subscribe to, but it is pro-male, pro-sex and views patriarchy as equally damaging for men as it is for women.

Not that I expect people to have seen, let alone remember, everything I've ever written on a topic. But I think I'm a great deal more justified in drawing assumptions about 1927's take on feminism from his use of the word 'feminazi' than he is based on a joke he didn't understand.

 

[bi0boy]

If a black person pisses you off, do you use a racial insult to wind them up?

If you think there is no comparison between the terms, explain why. Show your working.

Because feminazi is a derogatory term for a radical feminist. Radical feminism is an ideological position that ones chooses to adopt, a bit different from skin colour don't you think?

I am sure being compared to Julie Burchill might have been traumatic for you, but it was as a direct result of the failure of an in "joke" you tried to deploy. I seem to remember you repeatedly having a go at me before for making jokes about sensitive issues that aren't readily apparent as jokes to anyone who might be reading the thread. Maybe you should go and read your own advice.

 

[ymu]

Because feminazi is a derogatory term for a radical feminist. Radical feminism is an ideological position that ones chooses to adopt, a bit different from skin colour don't you think?

I am sure being compared to Julie Burchill might have been traumatic for you, but it was as a direct result of the failure of an in "joke" you tried to deploy. I seem to remember you repeatedly having a go at me before for making jokes about sensitive issues that aren't readily apparent as jokes to anyone who might be reading the thread. Maybe you should go and read your own advice.

He didn't level the insult at a radical feminist, but even if he had, do you really think comparing an assertive woman to Hitler is indicative of a healthy attitude to feminism? Really?

Are you really still holding a grudge about my pulling you up on a joke about Eastern Europeans from what? at least a year ago? Wow.

You didn't answer this bit:

If a black person pisses you off, do you use a racial insult to wind them up? Do your mates direct homophobic insults at you in anger, and if so, are you OK with that?

 

[bi0boy]

He didn't level the insult at a radical feminist, but even if he had, do you really think comparing an assertive woman to Hitler is indicative of a healthy attitude to feminism? Really?

A healthy attitude to radical feminism, yes. A bit like a favourite word of Urban's, conspiraloons.

Are you really still holding a grudge about my pulling you up on a joke about Eastern Europeans from what? at least a year ago? Wow.

Of course not, I'm just suggesting you take your own advice for once.

You didn't answer this bit: If a black person pisses you off, do you use a racial insult to wind them up? Do your mates direct homophobic insults at you in anger, and if so, are you OK with that?

I did actually. Comparing race and sexuality to the ideological lunacy of radical feminist is bizarre. The word "feminazi" was clearly not used against you because of your gender, but because of the random accusation you appeared to hurl (I'm sure it was well funny to those who go the "joke" though, well done for that).

 

[ymu]

Radical feminists are to men as the Nazis were to Jews?

You sure you want to stand by that statement?

When was the last time you heard a bloke called 'feminazi'?

 

[bi0boy]

Radical feminists are to men as the Nazis were to Jews?

You sure you want to stand by that statement?

What statement that I said do you want me to stand by?

I'm certainly not standing anywhere near your random assertions on this thread.

Maybe you should let go of those straws?

 

[ymu]

A healthy attitude to radical feminism, yes. A bit like a favourite word of Urban's, conspiraloons.

^^ That one.

 

[bi0boy]

You appear to be confusing "an assertive woman" with "a radical feminist".

 

[bi0boy]

^^ That one.

Yes. Lampooning radical feminists by referring to them as feminazis is entirely appropriate.

 

[Dandred]

I can't believe how all these burgers that are made in the same place and packaged as different brands hasn't warranted discussion, if anything that should be a key in the downfall of consumer capitalism.
In the same way that certain sport's shoes are all made at the same factory and at the end have different labels stitched onto them to be sold at different prices.

 

[Dandred]

Now urban's are bitching with each other about another infinite pointless point.

 

[ymu]

Yes. Lampooning radical feminists by referring to them as feminazis is entirely appropriate.

So you do think that they are as damaging to men as the Nazis were to Jews. Thanks for clearing that one up. Finally.

 

[ymu]

I can't believe how all these burgers that are made in the same place and packaged as different brands hasn't warranted discussion, if anything that should be a key in the downfall of consumer capitalism.
In the same way that certain sport's shoes are all made at the same factory and at the end have different labels stitched onto them to be sold at different prices.

Everyone knows that, surely? Well, not young uns, but adults who read the news or watch telly or read the packaging know it, as does anyone who has worked in a food factory or knows someone who has worked in a food factory. It's not exactly a secret.

 

[bi0boy]

So you do think that they are as damaging to men as the Nazis were to Jews. Thanks for clearing that one up. Finally.

Stop putting words into mouth. Did I mention anywhere they were damaging to men? No, that's right I didn't

Actually where did I compare them to nazis at all? I simply said feminazi is an appropriate pejorative. I bet no one here thinks conspiracy theorists should be locked in asylums for being driven to madness by the moon?

You still haven't explained how the insult "feminazi" is equivalent to "nigger", and by extension how radical feminism is equivalent to skin colour? Perhaps you'd like to stand by that one?

 

[Garek]

Continuing this thread is futile, it's like flogging a dead horse.

I don't know, there seems to be a few people still chomping at the bit for more.

 

[Dandred]

Everyone knows that, surely? Well, not young uns, but adults who read the news or watch telly or read the packaging know it, as does anyone who has worked in a food factory or knows someone who has worked in a food factory. It's not exactly a secret.

Most people don't, they are happy to buy what ever makes them feel like it was something worth buying. Burgers are still luxury taxed in the UK aren't they?

 

[ymu]

Stop putting words into mouth. Did I mention anywhere they were damaging to men? No, that's right I didn't

Actually where did I compare them to nazis at all? I simply said feminazi is an appropriate pejorative. I bet no one here thinks conspiracy theorists should be locked in asylums for being driven to madness by the moon?

You still haven't explained how the insult "feminazi" is equivalent to "nigger", and by extension how radical feminism is equivalent to skin colour? Perhaps you'd like to stand by that one?

How is 'feminazi' not drawing a comparison with the Nazis?

I said the closest racial equivalent was "uppity nigger", not "nigger". Fuck's sake.

I'm not engaging with you further because I don't think you're putting any effort in (but feel free to spout more crassness, obv).

 

[ymu]

Most people don't, they are happy to buy what ever makes them feel like it was something worth buying. Burgers are still luxury taxed in the UK aren't they?

That's called consumerism. I have no idea what the tax comment means in this context.

 

[bi0boy]

I said the closest racial equivalent was "uppity nigger", not "nigger". Fuck's sake.

Ah yes, that makes your comparison between insulting radical feminists and racial abuse totally make sense.

 

[bi0boy]

I'm not engaging with you further because I don't think you're putting any effort in (but feel free to spout more crassness, obv).

I'm the one standing by everything I say and you're the one running away from all the bizarre and random statements you keep making.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I don't recall seeig you do a joke before on here ymu and now I know why.

 

[1927]

Tesco are offering triple clubcard points next week on petrol and burgers.Just ask for the Only Fuel and Horses promotion!

 

[8ball]

Feminazi is pretty damn clear, no? We have rare but blazing rows where I call my partner a cunt a lot, but never black cunt. I don't needle him about slavery. And I don't call him an uppity nigger, which is the closest racial insult to feminazi.

What would you think of me if I did?
.

I think 'black supremacist' would probably be closer, though I can see the point you're trying to make with that.

 

[weltweit]

Even more horse meat found at a couple of Irish meat processors.

One burger had apparently 75% horse dna .... 75% ...