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Hootananny pub (formerly Hobgoblin)

Went in on the weekend only to be driven outside due to the horrendously loud, tinny sounding band playing.

Left shortly after as it was fucking freezing out there, went to mango landin which was almost entirely populated by children. they have a sign on the wall proclaiming themselves to be the 'Breastfeeding Bar of the Year'.

We left sharply and retreated to the albert. That end of town does now suck. Gave hooters a shot and it sucked. Bring back the filthy old hob.
 
And you were a lot more supportive earlier too Gabi. Sadly that's my experience of the weekends as well.

I liked the Thai food. I wouldn't quite go as far as CA, but it was decent stuff for the money - my £6 jungle curry (rice included) was full of beef and fresh vegetables. Not top notch and a little underpowered (certainly not a true jungle curry) but you couldn't quibble with the value. However, probably best to avoid the seafood if you're hungry - a prawn green curry came with all of 4 prawns, and you should have heard the loud opinions of one certain big windies gentleman who got served with a measly four piece portion of squid.

Certainly better than Oriental Cottage though. Worth a try when the bagpipes aren't on.
 
tarannau said:
And you were a lot more supportive earlier too Gabi. Sadly that's my experience of the weekends as well.

I liked the Thai food. I wouldn't quite go as far as CA, but it was decent stuff for the money - my £6 jungle curry (rice included) was full of beef and fresh vegetables. Not top notch and a little underpowered (certainly not a true jungle curry) but you couldn't quibble with the value. However, probably best to avoid the seafood if you're hungry - a prawn green curry came with all of 4 prawns, and you should have heard the loud opinions of one certain big windies gentleman who got served with a measly four piece portion of squid.

Certainly better than Oriental Cottage though. Worth a try when the bagpipes aren't on.


Possibly a bad sign because my meal also had four or five prawns at most. Not ideal when you've already had four or five pints :rolleyes:
 
bloody hell trannau - how much do you eat?

BTW -
last week, we went to that mango something bar after the after hootgranny - very nathan barley-ish...has it always been like this?
 
CharlieAddict said:
bloody hell trannau - how much do you eat?

BTW -
last week, we went to that mango something bar after the after hootgranny - very nathan barley-ish...has it always been like this?

Hey, I didn't eat all those options myself - I had a partner in eating crime. FWIW gannets, the jungle curries come in bigger bowls than the green curries for some reason. Decent, but I was little disappointed by the lack of kick and authentic feel, especially after spotting all those reassuringly hot chilli icons on the menu. Better than the average pub Thai and it certainly fills a gap in the Brixton market anyway. The Blue Elephant is ludicrously overrated of course - problem a symptom of being in the Sloane distortion zone, where food tends to be of the comfort variety.

Mango Landing used to be a bit more hippy-like before, but it's getting bloody expensive now.

Edited to add:what is it with Mango and laptops? Every time I pass there and there's one whapped out on a table, someone diligently staring into space over it. It does actually look a quite pleasant place to work, but still...
 
tarannau said:
And you were a lot more supportive earlier too Gabi. Sadly that's my experience of the weekends as well.

Well at least I gave it a try before writing it off! ;)

Thai food looked good and staff were friendly, my main gripes are the same as yours tho. The music, and wtf is with closing off the main bar? That's the best bit. I never even really used to go into the bit they've now made the main bar. Doesn't feel right.

Oh and the church pew seats they've got inside. Unless you've got military posture theres no way you could ever make yourself comfy on those.
 
Well, I did say you didn't have to be Nostradamus to work out how it'd turn out...

:p

Still, they've not quite failed to amaze me in their diligent application of the annoying theme. After pissing off a hefty chunk of the rugby-watching pub with inane soundchecks, they compounded the insult with a bagpipe burst straight afterwards despite promises of quiet. Another recent quiet drink and they forced out us out with bagpipes. And guess what, another time and they hit us with bagp...

I'm not Scottish and I've no beef with North of the Border. In fact I feel a kind of sadness. If they'd took my heritage and made a ludicrous theme out of it I'd almost certainly experience the same sinking feeling. A cutting edge twmpath bar, with barstaff wearing funny tall hats, festooned with daffodils and leeks, accompanied by parps of harp? Or a bar of superannuated soca played by overearnest heritage types, staff wearing banana headresses and acting like the lilt ladies, encouraging punters to limbo into the 21st century?

Yep, they're winning ideas alright. Only I'd show a genunine, deep commitment to my cultural heritage by cutting out that nasty native food muck and serving good old spanish tapas to punters, because that's what works...

;)
 
Sweet FA said:
<snigger>

yeah iwas thinking that Hooters had openede a branch in Brixton...you know that American beer and burger chain where the waitresses all have orange skin and very effective bras?
 
CharlieAddict said:
that thai food is one of the best we've tasted in london.
certainly better tasting than blue elephant and a third of the price too.

and it isn't that hot! :mad:

it's spicey but no way is it hot!!!
proper thai foods never is!!!!!

Eh? Proper Thai food is some of the hottest food I've eaten. Go to Thailand Eat a decent SomTam and then tell me that proper Thai food isn't hot!
 
Sunray said:
Eh? Proper Thai food is some of the hottest food I've eaten. Go to Thailand Eat a decent SomTam and then tell me that proper Thai food isn't hot!

Thai food can be obscenely hot, and I say that as someone who loves pepper.

I've got some genuine article Thai curry recipes and I wouldn't dare to attempt to follow them to the letter, even if I did want to inflict pain on my friends. For a green curry it works out at something daft like 6 birds eye chillies per person, plus added garnish. No amount of coconut milk and palm sugar is going to take away that heat. And you don't even want to start on jungle curries or their ridiculously hot pickles.

I popped my head into Hootaanny last night on the way home. Absolutely dead inside, with just a few hardy familiar souls huddled outside - it was so miserable that I just turned around and left again. Quite sad really - we went to the Effra instead, where it was far busier despite being a squit of the size.

Tried a little more Thai food in there the other day mind. I can thoroughly recommend the red curry on that evidence - honestly one of the best red curries I've had over here. Hotter than the green and jungle curries for some strange reason.
 
i not tried a really hot thai curry!
think i'm missing out on something there.

if the hootagranny is that empty and no-one is blasting out 'em bagpipes, we may go in for a cheap curry tonight.
 
Go early is my advice. If you're lucky they may be playing other Scottish favourites, like that Sheryl Crow woman or (bizarrely) Blue Boy's 'Remember Me' instead of bagpipes. It's like Heart FM until the bagpipes start. Whoopee

I don't think you'll have any problems getting a chair - the one thing which attracts a few customers is the sport and I think it's only comparatively unpopular Carling cup stuff tonight.
 
Its only open over a month but this place has got a pummelling
in this thread like no other new venue, give the place/people a chance,
I'm sure if they're not getting people for Scottish music they'll adjust
to local tastes...

What was there before the Hoots was nothing much to shout about
except for maybe watching a football match and even then the Brockwell
was a lot better. The big room was barely ever used, at least
now we have some live music...
 
on wednesday night i went straight into the big bar and ordered a drink.
overheard a few locals asking if it was possible to switch the game to the carling cup.
the answer was 'no, this is a scottish pub and the scottish footie is on. but next week we will show more english football.'

ummm...not sure if that was the right attitude.
by the time i left the big bar, only three or four guys were hanging in there.
the rest had buggered off.

the thai red curry was delicious!
the jungle curry i'm not sure.
good food. no bagpipes thank god.

my only rant was the bloke sitting opposite me with his gf.
he was so up his own arse.
one of those guys that'd start every sentence and every phrase with 'I' or 'me.'
and he was boring the bollocks off his woman.
we all have bad days mate! no need to whinge that loud!
for fuck sakes...

anyway, where was i? yeah the little bar, it was pleasant apart from that twat.
they dimmed the lights, no shit music etc.
and guess what? it was 60% full!!!
 
The people who run the place are fine and to be fair I think, as you'll probably gather from the repeated visits, people have given it a few chances. That said, the whole business plan and gimmicky branding is seemingly pushing the place down the swannee.

Unless I'm missing something and they're getting exceptionally busy late weekend evenings, they really can't be doing that well. The usual faces pop in more rarely and for shorter periods, whilst there aren't exactly people queuing up to replace them. And this is in the first month- the occasional new faces I see in there aren't seen often again either. On top of that they're employing considerably more staff (at least an extra one or two bar staff, 2-3 more in the kitchen than Scolly's one man show) bringing musicians/bands in every night and a host of new AV/Audio equipment.

Unless I'm missing something, it's hard to see how the sums add up - I doubt that 30p extra on each pint's enough to compensate. With the summer and the attraction of the beer garden waning, along with initial curiosity and friends ofthe mgmt ebbing away, it's tough to see a miraculous recovery. Christmas and New Year perhaps, but there's little loyalty atm.

The Thai food's good and probably the main thing attracting people, the management nice enough, but it's sad to see a certain decline already. The pub badly needed a change, but a lot of the improvements have been cosmetic and marketing led - critical improvements on things like the minging toilets haven't been made. It's the same to a large extent, with friendlier management and music far more likely to repel people. The ideal of it becoming a destination pub seems far away for the moment, and it's not exactly pulling up trees locally either.
 
CharlieAddict said:
the thai red curry was delicious!
the jungle curry i'm not sure.
good food. no bagpipes thank god.
!

Glad you enjoyed the Red curry - the one I had was really, really good. Stir fries, seafood and the jungle curries may be a little disappointing in there, but that dish alone is fanastic and reason enough to visit.

You're right about the little bar though - it's nearly always busier in there when it's open. It's a better, more atmospheric room for sure - but it alsio speaks volumes that the Thai restaurant bit, away from the live music and Scottish bar, is far more popular.
 
tarannau said:
Tried a little more Thai food in there the other day mind. I can thoroughly recommend the red curry on that evidence - honestly one of the best red curries I've had over here. Hotter than the green and jungle curries for some strange reason.

God really?! Hmmmmm, might pop in there, just for curiosity value (and a red curry).
 
Their website says they want to create a "home from home" for Scots in London. Unless they realise that this premise, given the location and numerous other considerations, is utterly absurd and adapt their policy, the "Hootananny" will IMO be shortlived.
 
Having never entered the old Hobber, I have been to the Hoots twice in a week. It's ok, nothing spectacular, the beer's a bit pricey, i.e. £2.90 for a Carling which is the same price as the Prince Regent. What is strange though is that the Brixton Water Lane entrance is closed and internally they close the doors between the main room and that bar. This means that there is hardly any atmosphere especially if a band is playing.
 
*gergl posting*

zora went for a pint in the hootawotsit with Blind Lemon the other night. Apparently when she described the decor he said "oh man, sometimes I'm really glad to be blind"

:eek: :D
 
I've had an idea. I'll buy the Hootananny, put on a couple of real ales, 2 or 3 decent lagers, and maybe a few decent bottles. The bar staff will be plentiful and polite. There'll be food, but nothing special, just sarnies and microwave stuff. I'll have football in the small bar unless it's big night in which case I'll wheel it in to one side of the main bar. I'll get the bogs cleaned every couple of hours and I'll make sure kids are welcome outside and in one half of the bar but also keep a grown up side without 'em. And no dogs. And there'll be 50s to noughties juke box. Maybe pool at the back.

Why aren't I going to make a fortune? I've even got a name for it

The Castlereagh!
 
zora said:
zora went for a pint in the hootawotsit with Blind Lemon the other night. Apparently when she described the decor he said "oh man, sometimes I'm really glad to be blind"

:eek: :D

:D :eek: :D
 
I was there last night.... the bar staff ....ffs. Asked bor vodka lime and soda....it took 10 mins for him to bring me vodka lime and cider!!!!!!
ffs
I like the place don't get me wrong. But you need to have fast good bar staff who know how to do their job.
 
playghirl said:
I was there last night.... the bar staff ....ffs. Asked bor vodka lime and soda....it took 10 mins for him to bring me vodka lime and cider!!!!!!
ffs
I like the place don't get me wrong. But you need to have fast good bar staff who know how to do their job.
He was probably diaaapproving of mixing the vodka with syrup ;)
 
Ol Nick said:
I've had an idea. I'll buy the Hootananny, put on a couple of real ales, 2 or 3 decent lagers, and maybe a few decent bottles. The bar staff will be plentiful and polite. There'll be food, but nothing special, just sarnies and microwave stuff. I'll have football in the small bar unless it's big night in which case I'll wheel it in to one side of the main bar. I'll get the bogs cleaned every couple of hours and I'll make sure kids are welcome outside and in one half of the bar but also keep a grown up side without 'em. And no dogs. And there'll be 50s to noughties juke box. Maybe pool at the back.
if only...... :)
 
Was in the hoot last night, the price of a pint of Blanc
is now £3.60 up from £3.15(I think):(

Now thats a bit of a hike!!!
 
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