Herne Hill news, chitter chatter and gossip

[Ms T]

Are you serious? London is one of the most socially dense cities in the world. A rise in young people contacting Covid inevitably leads to a rise in older people being admitted to hospital. Some of those elderly people will die. That should be obvious to anybody.

i have no close contact with elderly people atm because my parents live miles away and I am choosing not to visit them and wfh. That’s the case for many people. Socialising outside is low risk which is why we’re allowed to do it. Cases of COVID in Lambeth and Southwark are quite a bit lower than the national average.

 

[teuchter]

Yeah we’ve been to the South Bank a couple of times and found the same. It makes sense though, right? Socialising outdoors is relatively safe and that is a good place to do it.

In theory no one is supposed to be socialising at all at the moment though.

*actually, two people is ok isn't it. But I see groups everwhere.

 

[prunus]

In theory no one is supposed to be socialising at all at the moment though.

*actually, two people is ok isn't it. But I see groups everwhere.

Groups are also allowed if they are all from the same household (or two linked households).

 

[gaijingirl]

Everywhere outdoors is rammed. I went to Beckenham place park yesterday to walk the dog thinking it's so spacious it'd be less crowded. It was rammed. With short daylight hours and bad weather/rain everyone is getting outside whenever possible.

 

[editor]

Lockdown 2 has been a joke in terms of compliance. The number of traffic about is the most telling factor. Especially at times of the day when there’s no school run to consider.

There actually are regular traffic jams occurring. Where the fuck is everyone going on a Sunday afternoon? Because sure as fuck most of them aren’t shopping for grocery essentials, or doing anything that’s allowed under the rules.

I was on the tube recently. It was rammed.

 

[teuchter]

Groups are also allowed if they are all from the same household (or two linked households).

That's true... A household or a household plus one person from a single person household. However, when I see a group of 6 or 8 adults I suspect they might not fall into these categories.
I don't actually feel that a group of people going for a walk together outdoors is a big risk. However, I know that some people do, and feel worried by it, and it seems kind of inconsiderate to be doing it so visibly when we are supposed to be trying to stay in line with some common rules.
I feel that lots of people have given up on being seen to be doing the right thing now, and it affects my behaviour too.

 

[Smick]

I was out for my run earlier and came through Herne Hill. The market is on and, while it is outdoor, it was far more densely packed than you would expect in a pub. Queues everywhere to buy artisan olive bread and organic coffee.

 

[BusLanes]

We went for a long walk from the City back to Brixton via St James Park mid week and it felt like the weekend on the streets in terms of traffic/pedestrians but the park was sort of busy.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Maybe they’re not mixing with the elderly?

Aren't the elderly allowed to go out shopping anymore? don't you expect to see older people going out to work / exercise / shopping anymore? Herne Hill is not an elderly free zone!

Well I'm not that old but even I found negotiating around the hoards of people queuing and standing about in HH, made me nervous even on friday afternoon. I had wanted something from sesame but decided to do with out rather than face people getting too close. Too many young people without masks. I found myself zigzagging to avoid people and younger people walking/ running by far to close to me. I stand out of their way and they charge by without a glance. Must be hell for those who are slow or not steady on their feet.

Going to Brixton market makes me even more anxious.

 

[wurlycurly]

Young people hanging around in large groups clearly help the virus to aggressively circulate. It's bizarre that people think doing so is okay because 'they're not mixing with the elderly'. Look at deaths all over the world. A spike in young people catching Covid is followed several weeks later by a spike in elderly deaths. It's a virus. There are no secrets about its transmission. I was in Herne Hill yesterday and turned back before even reaching the market. It was utterly rammed and I could see very few face masks. Lots of braying young people. Selfish and preposterous.

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

We went for a long walk from the City back to Brixton via St James Park mid week and it felt like the weekend on the streets in terms of traffic/pedestrians but the park was sort of busy.

I done a long walk around central London on Friday and it was dead to be honest, not a soul around Covent Garden, it was actually spooky. Saying that, the weather was shite.

 

[coldwaterswim]

Just seen a post on instagram saying all takeaway food stalls are cancelled at herne hill market until further notice. Fruit/veg etc stalls will still open

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

Thats a shame, i really fancied a £9 wrap this Sunday.

 

[Rushy]

Just seen a post on instagram saying all takeaway food stalls are cancelled at herne hill market until further notice. Fruit/veg etc stalls will still open

Can't say I'm surprised. Some of the queues must have been 20 people long and police were trying to enforce 2m spacing without being heavy handed.

Any idea whether that applies to the booze "takeaways"?

 

[coldwaterswim]

Can't say I'm surprised. Some of the queues must have been 20 people long and police were trying to enforce 2m spacing without being heavy handed.

Any idea whether that applies to the booze "takeaways"?

The post just says ‘take away food stalls’ so I’m guessing booze will still be allowed

 

[thismoment]

Which stalls sell booze?

 

[snowy_again]

They don’t - agile and OTC do

(And the otc owned green parrot)

 

[Jay Park]

Again, I’m afraid. This is a hill that I am not prepared to die on.

 

[thismoment]

They don’t - agile and OTC do

(And the otc owned green parrot)

oh I see, I was thinking that I hadn’t noticed the last time that I was there. Although it was a long time ago

 

[Johnny Doe]

Herne Hill? It's not the hill I'd choose to die on

 

[BusLanes]

Peabody Hill is closeby, for discerning types

 

[Ms T]

It’s the takeaway booze that’s the real issue isn’t it? I feel sorry for the businesses who were just trying to survive.

 

[Rushy]

It’s the takeaway booze that’s the real issue isn’t it?

Some of the food stalls were creating their own overcrowding with queues snaking in front of other stalls and folk squishing up. Not really anyone's fault other than everyone having the same idea to go out and there not being the space for 2m distancing. If 2m distancing is important then closing the food stalls is probably the only option. Or possibly making masks compulsory in markets and wrapping queues around stalls.

Have to say that some stalls were trying harder than others. But I was really quite put off by food openly on counters right at the front of some stalls with no protection. Especially stuff like bread and cakes which will not be cooked and are eaten straight away. Not even any pretense at an effort. Tested my sympathy for the difficulties of trading during a pandemic.

 

[snowy_again]

It’s like a full on festival again.

Sea of beige.

 

[nagapie]

Rammed when I walked through today. Hardly any masks too. Quite shocked they're getting away with this through mockdown as there was no social distancing at all and clearly not all from the same households. Then again, I'm thinking because everyone is outdoors the risk of transmission probably would be low if they just didn't let so many people gather there.

 

[Lizzy Mac]

Large branch off a Hawthorn in Herne Hill Road due to diverted 35 & 345 buses.

 

[teuchter]

Large branch off a Hawthorn in Herne Hill Road due to diverted 35 & 345 buses.

I saw that earlier too

 

[sleaterkinney]

Herne Hill is busy today

 

[friendofdorothy]

Herne Hill is busy today

are people observing mask / distancing rules?

I had been planning on going to the post office monday
- but I'm worried I'll be too nerveous to go now.

 

[sleaterkinney]

are people observing mask / distancing rules?

I had been planning on going to the post office monday
- but I'm worried I'll be too nerveous to go now.

It will be better with the move into tier 4 you would hope.