Ol Nick
beer in Brixton
So blame the traffic.
Herne Hill news, chitter chatter and gossip
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Rushy
basically a scrotum
I don't recall there being all that much objection to what was done in the centre of Herne Hill, particularly after it was done? Could it be that the local public may be more pragmatic or nuanced in their criticisms than "the fascists" you describe give them credit for?All thanks to those fascists banning through traffic a few years back
Also, wasn't there quite a bit of pre-consultation, particularly with businesses in order to get them on board (hence, for instance, through traffic is in fact still allowed for large vehicles).
T & P
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I doubt motor vehicles no longer being allowed to join the junction through the end bit of Railton Rd where the Sunday market now stands would have irked even the most militant of pro-car Clarksonites anyway, as the replacement route doesn’t really take any more time or effort to complete.
snowy_again
Slush
So the planning permission has been given to install the electricity substation into 315 Railton Road.
315 was the laundrette but is now the smaller custard cream coloured vacant unit (not the bright yellow one).
313 expands at the back to take up the unused space in 315 as they only need the front portion.
315 loses its windows and doors which have to be replaced with security louvred windows and shutters - a blank space.
Crazy that they even managed to refurb all the other 7 units (6 vacant for 3 years, 1 occupied for the last 3? months) without considering they would need electricity.
The planning app says it contravenes 2 Lambeth policies - ED6 and PN6.
Local objections from HH Soc was that there’s space next to the station (the staff car park / storage bit) or by the half moon. I don’t see why it can’t go in the empty unit under the bridge where all the pigeon shit is - as that will never get leased the way it is now.
HH Soc other objections are the loss of shop front and that the block has flats above it (noise and health related).
315 was the laundrette but is now the smaller custard cream coloured vacant unit (not the bright yellow one).
313 expands at the back to take up the unused space in 315 as they only need the front portion.
315 loses its windows and doors which have to be replaced with security louvred windows and shutters - a blank space.
Crazy that they even managed to refurb all the other 7 units (6 vacant for 3 years, 1 occupied for the last 3? months) without considering they would need electricity.
The planning app says it contravenes 2 Lambeth policies - ED6 and PN6.
Local objections from HH Soc was that there’s space next to the station (the staff car park / storage bit) or by the half moon. I don’t see why it can’t go in the empty unit under the bridge where all the pigeon shit is - as that will never get leased the way it is now.
HH Soc other objections are the loss of shop front and that the block has flats above it (noise and health related).
teuchter
je suis teuchter
From what I've seen, it seemed like it could have been feasible to put it in the car park bit by the station. There was a complication here that there's also a plan, possibly, to install a new lift shaft to provide access to the recently refurbed hall above the station, but as I understand it, it should have been possible to accommodate both.
Essentially, it appears that this option was scuppered by the TOC (Southeastern Trains) refusing to co-operate. Could more pressure have been put on them, by Network Rail or Lambeth, to concede this space? Who knows.
The result is that there will be a shopfront that looks like this:
So that Southeastern trains can retain a car parking space.
If Herne Hill folk are annoyed enough about this, I suppose they could try hassling SE trains on twitter
snowy_again
Slush
Yeah rising the funds for that lift is going to be a challenge, they’re not cheap and the ongoing maintenance isn’t exactly easy.
Rudimental I believe
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
XR are camping in the park - in the area behind the paddling area. They are attending events in central London everyday atm, so there were just a couple of them there in the park, who I enjoyed meeting.
snowy_again
Slush
They’ve two shops now - another in Beckenham I think.
The HH one Always seems quite busy whenever I’ve gone past- somewhere in between a traditional bakery and a place that sells vegan energy balls and frappuccino
The HH one Always seems quite busy whenever I’ve gone past- somewhere in between a traditional bakery and a place that sells vegan energy balls and frappuccino
snowy_again
Slush
Also Moses has a new shop - what was the garage to the right of the bookies.
Off the Cuff is looking to expand
Off the Cuff is looking to expand
I went to the Herne Hill one for the first time today. Massively underwhelmed especially compared with Blackbird,
Nivag
Well-Known Member
Says the poster who's out taking photos of it
I live in Herne Hill.Says the poster who's out taking photos of it
But thanks for your input.
Nivag
Well-Known Member
Well maybe they do too.
wurlycurly
diss member
It's preposterously busy at times. Lots of people who give zero fucks about the elderly.
snowy_again
Slush
Bumped into a few of my older and isolating neighbours today who weren’t impressed with off the cuff and agile rabbit. They couldn’t get home directly without negotiating the badly managed beer queues.
When Mr paulee posted the photo I was going to say that most people in it were in groups of less than 3, but by 6 pm there were pissed up groups of ten or more stumbling about.
It’s strange as last night was the quietest I’ve ever heard it around here.
When Mr paulee posted the photo I was going to say that most people in it were in groups of less than 3, but by 6 pm there were pissed up groups of ten or more stumbling about.
It’s strange as last night was the quietest I’ve ever heard it around here.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
That could mean pretty much anything then.
According to a particularly irate trader, police were out earlier and did nothing. A reference was made to "that twat in tweed".
snowy_again
Slush
And now it’s so empty I can hear a solo skateboarder doing ollies and the betting shop exiles having a quiet chuckle.
T & P
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Lockdown 2 has been a joke in terms of compliance. The number of traffic about is the most telling factor. Especially at times of the day when there’s no school run to consider.
There actually are regular traffic jams occurring. Where the fuck is everyone going on a Sunday afternoon? Because sure as fuck most of them aren’t shopping for grocery essentials, or doing anything that’s allowed under the rules.
There actually are regular traffic jams occurring. Where the fuck is everyone going on a Sunday afternoon? Because sure as fuck most of them aren’t shopping for grocery essentials, or doing anything that’s allowed under the rules.
madolesance
Well-Known Member
Went for a cycle along the South Bank today and it was the busiest I have ever seen the place. Even in peak summer there would never be that many people.
wurlycurly
diss member
Are you serious? London is one of the most socially dense cities in the world. A rise in young people contacting Covid inevitably leads to a rise in older people being admitted to hospital. Some of those elderly people will die. That should be obvious to anybody.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Yeah we’ve been to the South Bank a couple of times and found the same. It makes sense though, right? Socialising outdoors is relatively safe and that is a good place to do it.
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