Greek elections
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Santorini?
Where is this?, it looks magical.
ska invita
back on the other side
Tsipras has said at every point that he doesnt want to leave the Euro, in getting elected they didnt campaign on leaving the euro and now in this referendum they reiterated that voting No wouldn't mean leaving the Euro...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Hang on, what is this 2.3 trillion dollar nonsense? Plus all the others.
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
Will they get kicked out of the euro though?
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Putin makes a dry comment , and then imperceptibly grins as if he's trying not to piss himself . Eurobods get so cunty they even piss off the people who voted to appease them . Greeks probably go back to drachma , providing either the Chinese or Russians print it for them . May well come down to Obama deciding whether or not to let them link it to the dollar , in order to stave off Russia projecting themselves within the NATO sphere .
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I'm happy that everyone I hate will be pissed off right now.*
* yes, I know some of the euro nationalist right support a no vote, obviously I'm excluding them, 'everyone' is a rhetorical ploy, not literal. Just pre-empting some pedant gets up in my grill about it.
* yes, I know some of the euro nationalist right support a no vote, obviously I'm excluding them, 'everyone' is a rhetorical ploy, not literal. Just pre-empting some pedant gets up in my grill about it.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He said he doesn't want to leave the EU - not the euro. And given that's what happened is that the referendum has been focused on the result meaning leaving/staying in the euro, then yeah, such a landslide is precisely a mandate to proceed.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
By who? And on what grounds?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Seriously, you think the neo-liberal interests who run the eu can't come up with something? We're an ad-hoc group remember?
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
If what I've heard Varoufakis say is representative of Syriza at large, then their desire is to stick with the Euro. Most of the Greek public do not favour going back to the Drachma either. Not that this is necessarily something that is in their control of course.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not a bad job for crappy amateur politicians who don't know what they're doing.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
I'm sure they can think of something, yes. Implementing that thought without tearing apart the Eurozone completely is another thing altogether. 'Kicking out' Greece, whatever the justification, would be the beginning of the end for the Euro.
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
The ECB last week took decisions with unprecendetally political rather than financial motives, didn't they?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He's not. Leaving the euro is not what the syriza power holders want, but a referendum posed on those terms - internally and externally - won by such a huge margin, provides a clear mandate for proceeding with the actions that may lead to that outcome.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Yes but he's said it in the full knowledge it's quite likely to happen unless the assholes cave...monumentally . He's a politician . Greece doesn't HAVE to leave the Euro , but was always highly likely it would have to due to a number of considerations . Namely they shouldn't have been in it in the first place , and the EU rulers are a bunch of bastards who'll force their withdrawal whether they want to leave or not . Personally I think they'll be a lot better off in the long run if they leave .
ska invita
back on the other side
"In a televised address to the nation, Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras said a "no" vote would not push Greece out of the eurozone, but rather win a better bailout deal." http://news.sky.com/story/1511398/greece-referendum-poll-has-yes-vote-ahead
The eurozone is the euro, not the EU.....
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yes, and?
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Yeah...he was never going to be happy there..never settled . Theres a rumour Sporting Lisbon are interested in signing him though .
rekil
to menny cranks
Unemployment skyrocketing already.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Amazing, there are some really fucking thick educated people out there.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Off you fuck then, and don't let the door hit your arse on the way out etc.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
They've always been political. Of course, it's possible they would rather tear the Euro project to pieces before granting Greece any room to manoeuvre. Whether or not they have any degree of 'enlightened' self interest I don't know.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Shame he won't get what he's entitled to
