gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
Paul Mason's latest C4 snippet. I like how he's struggling to hide his glee
Greek elections
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ska invita
back on the other side
Anyone care to have a punt about what happens next?
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
a lot of people wake up with hangovers?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
"will have been" - who? Name them. Why do you keep doing this?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
gotta love that, doing the 'conservatives! llberals! your boys have taken a hell of a beating. A hell of a beating' line. Can't say I blame him. Whatever comes next for the people of greece isn't going to be easy but they told the eu to fuck off. Good show people, good show indeed.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
FWIW Max Keiser predicting Deutche Bank collapse.
Max Keiser@maxkeiser
Compared to Deutsche Bank, Greek banks look healthy. Greece's problem's will be overshadowed by DB's collapse.
Max Keiser@maxkeiserCompared to Deutsche Bank, Greek banks look healthy. Greece's problem's will be overshadowed by DB's collapse.
teqniq
DisMembered
If the prediction is true, fuck 'em.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
"The euro has promptly tumbled by 1%, falling from $1.111 to $1.099 against the US dollar."
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He said conservatives and liberals are now in the NO camp and this presents a massive problem for the EU as they cannot attack on trad conservative lines. I'm not picking on your posts here, but come on...
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
FWIW Max Keiser predicting Deutche Bank collapse.
Compared to Deutsche Bank, Greek banks look healthy. Greece's problem's will be overshadowed by DB's collapse.
Given who is saying it I expect their profits to soar soon
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
British conservatives reaction
http://www.stevebaker.info/2015/07/reaction-to-the-greek-referendum/
http://www.stevebaker.info/2015/07/reaction-to-the-greek-referendum/
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I did get that point and and please, allow me the heady parfum of victory for a few hours. I'll be back to jaundiced eyed cynicism tomorrow
ska invita
back on the other side
I guess the thing now is for Syriza to return to the Drachma asap... there cant really be another option can there?
My impression is that till now Syriza have done a good job of attempting to find some middle ground with the troika and weren't met half way - and it would seem the majority of Greek people agree - but Greece literally can't afford to go back to dragging negotiations, and I very much doubt the troika are now about to roll over and make huge concessions. Which leaves only the drachma...
What are the mechanisms for going back to the drachma?
Syriza dont have a mandate to do so (as such) so could/would/should they call a referendum on it? It would feel strange to have a referendum like they jsut had and not on ditching the euro (which a few weeks ago the vast majority of people were in favour of keeping). And if they did have a referendum what if the vote went in favour of staying in the euro!
Another way out, supposedly, is for the European Central Bank to force the default and force Greece out of the euro - no need for a Syriza mandate then. In a way I hope thats what the troika encourages to happen (behind closed doors) . Draw a line under this as quickly as possible and move on....
My impression is that till now Syriza have done a good job of attempting to find some middle ground with the troika and weren't met half way - and it would seem the majority of Greek people agree - but Greece literally can't afford to go back to dragging negotiations, and I very much doubt the troika are now about to roll over and make huge concessions. Which leaves only the drachma...
What are the mechanisms for going back to the drachma?
Syriza dont have a mandate to do so (as such) so could/would/should they call a referendum on it? It would feel strange to have a referendum like they jsut had and not on ditching the euro (which a few weeks ago the vast majority of people were in favour of keeping). And if they did have a referendum what if the vote went in favour of staying in the euro!
Another way out, supposedly, is for the European Central Bank to force the default and force Greece out of the euro - no need for a Syriza mandate then. In a way I hope thats what the troika encourages to happen (behind closed doors) . Draw a line under this as quickly as possible and move on....
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Le Pen. (I read it earlier!)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Who will buy my lovely gold now?
hot air baboon
Well-Known Member
Keiser's answer is...you guessed it....bitcoins..
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They don't have a mandate to do what they basically just won an election around doing?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They're not after a bailout though.
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
Farage?
