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GB News: a thread so you never have to watch it

Serge Forward said:
My reckon is it's mainly small business owners, sole traders, petit bourgeoisie and some workers with zero class consciousness who love to kiss the boss's arse... oh, and hate brown people unless they're called Suella.
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Hang on - that's multiple people.

I reckon the GB News viewer this week is called Gerald, used to own a bric-a-brac shop, which he genuinely thought was a fine antiques emporium, has been married for 45 years to Helen, who worked part time as a school receptionist, lives in sussex and has a minature schnauzer that he secretly hates.
 
Has he had no media training? His delivery is terrible in that clip, seen better from amateur YouTube football vloggers.
 
Serge Forward said:
My reckon is it's mainly small business owners, sole traders, petit bourgeoisie and some workers with zero class consciousness who love to kiss the boss's arse... oh, and hate brown people unless they're called Suella.
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The one person I’m acquainted with who goes on about ‘woke’ all the time is exactly that, runs the landscaping business we use at work. Think it is an age demographic too, maybe people running businesses for years and frustrated by ‘red tape’ such as having to pay women the same as men and other such woke nonsense.

That famous Question Time that launched the use of the phrase ‘gammon’ was also a prime example, nearly all the apoplectic purple-faced loons were business-owning ex-local councillor types, yet some were defending them as working class just because they were white and had northern accents.
 
not a trot said:
A sizeable chunk of their audience are likely to be white working class people, going by the comments I hear.
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Why I got it so wrong on GB News – the flailing TV juggernaut that’s too rich to fail | GB News | The Guardian

The channel has posted a loss of £42m – and that highlights my naivety. With rich backers, who cares about ratings and profit? asks Guardian columnist Zoe Williams
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com

It doesn’t need an audience according to the above article.

It has right wing backers happy and willing to pour money down the drain instead.
 
Maybe it’s part of a secret left-wing conspiracy just to drain these arseholes of cash, while delivering amateurish and easily-ridiculed content presented by discredited sex pests and conspiracy fruit loops.
 
Just updated on the BBC link -

Politicians are not normally allowed to host news programmes under Ofcom rules.
They are, however, allowed to present current affair shows - with GB News stating the distinction was "unclear".
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But, it doesn't look like OFCOM is buying that, just updated on the Sky link -

The media watchdog said that because the politicians "acted as newsreaders, news interviewers or news reporters in sequences which clearly constituted news - including reporting breaking news events - without exceptional justification, news was, therefore, not presented with due impartiality".

It went on: "Politicians have an inherently partial role in society and news content presented by them is likely to be viewed by audiences in light of that perceived bias.

"In our view, the use of politicians to present the news risks undermining the integrity and credibility of regulated broadcast news."
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It would be funny as fuck if they have to drop all the MPs from their shows.
 
cupid_stunt said:
So, basically let off again. :rolleyes:
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The full decision is
GB News has not previously breached Rules 5.1 or 5.3. These five programmes were broadcast in May and June 2023 and we have only had reason to open one further investigation into GB News ’ programming under these rules since we opened these investigations [1]. GB News is on notice that any repeated breaches of Rules 5.1 and 5.3 may result in the imposition of a statutory sanction.

[1] This investigation relates to an episode of Farage broadcast on 17 January 2024, opened on 4 March 2024.
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But yeah.
 
Serge Forward said:
My reckon is it's mainly small business owners, sole traders, petit bourgeoisie and some workers with zero class consciousness who love to kiss the boss's arse... oh, and hate brown people unless they're called Suella.
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My local caff has a couple of smallish flatscreens up in the corners playing news perpetually. When I started going there, the owner had sky news on loop (muted with subtitles) and all the usual right-wing red-tops for people to peruse. Since the advent of (k)GB News, he's gone full-on into it; the GB news replacement is on all the time and at a pretty intrusive volume. I don't go there any more. Shame really, they did a great FEB. =/
 
Nylock said:
My local caff has a couple of smallish flatscreens up in the corners playing news perpetually. When I started going there, the owner had sky news on loop (muted with subtitles) and all the usual right-wing red-tops for people to peruse. Since the advent of (k)GB News, he's gone full-on into it; the GB news replacement is on all the time and at a pretty intrusive volume. I don't go there any more. Shame really, they did a great FEB. =/
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Have you told him why you’ve stopped going there?
 
skyscraper101 said:
Are OFCOM penalties and judgements usually announced at the same time? I'm unclear if we should be awaiting some sort of penalty or if this is supposed to be the end of it? :confused:
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Seems clear to me, they are just putting them on notice, so no fines or other action ATM.

GB News has not previously breached Rules 5.1 or 5.3. These five programmes were broadcast in May and June 2023 and we have only had reason to open one further investigation into GB News ’ programming under these rules since we opened these investigations [1]. GB News is on notice that any repeated breaches of Rules 5.1 and 5.3 may result in the imposition of a statutory sanction.
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Right this is your last warning! I'm telling you! Don't push your luck! I mean it this time. No, really!

Fuck's sake. Chilling effect? How about the chilling effect upon Purdah of GBN being allowed by it's mates in the clearly biased and hopelessly compromised Ofcom.
 
The BBC link has another update, with comment from GB News.

In response, GB News said: "We are deeply concerned by the decisions Ofcom has made today. We will raise this directly with the regulator in the strongest possible terms.

"Ofcom is obliged by law to promote free speech and media plurality, and to ensure that alternative voices are heard."

Its latest decisions "contravene those duties" and raise "serious questions about Ofcom's oversight over its own regulations", the channel added.
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Not sure they will get away with having any of these rulings reversed. GB News' intention from it's launch was to test the boundaries, and they have basically been pushing their luck too much.

Having skimmed read some of the OFCOM reports, GB News has put in very clever and robust defences for each and every programme, on the basis of them being 'current affairs' programmes, which MPs' can present, even on a 'news channel', and not 'news' programmes, which they can't. However, OFCOM went into great detail about how they had blurred the lines too much between the 'news' and the more general 'current affairs' content, in all six cases* investigated, meaning they fitted into OFCOM's definition of being both 'news and current affairs' programmes, and therefore shouldn't be presented by MPs.

* However, in the 6th case, their defence on 'exceptionally' was accepted, because Rees-Mogg was doing his show live from a studio in the grounds of Buckingham Palace, and accidently became part of a breaking story, reporting that a controlled explosion had taken place and that police were evacuating people, including them and the GB News camera crew, from the Palace grounds. Which, TBF, is rather exceptional circumstances.

GB News said, in reference to Rule 5.3, that “there is no definition of “exceptionally” offered in the Guidance” so it had adopted the definition of “only in unusual circumstances” or “not what happened regularly or is expected”. It submitted that in this case, the programme was broadcastunder “unarguably ‘exceptional’ circumstances”.
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If GB News is very clever they will be a lot stricter ensuring the correct lines are kept between 'news' inserted into 'current affairs' programmes, but it'll be an editorial nightmare, and they will be skating on very thin ice, the slightest error is likely to result in another breach. The impression I am left with, is it's hard for OFCOM dealing with their claims they are 'current affairs' programmes, the lines are a bit blurred between 'news', 'current affairs', and 'news and current affairs' programmes, and that OFCOM has had enough of their games.

I hope that's all clear now!

I suspect it seems as clear as mud, but that's about sums up why it's so difficult for OFCOM, I've actually ended-up feeling a bit sorry for them.

Although GB News hasn't been fined yet, it must have cost a lot on clever lawyers to write their defences.
 
cupid_stunt said:
The BBC link has another update, with comment from GB News.



Not sure they will get away with having any of these rulings reversed. GB News' intention from it's launch was to test the boundaries, and they have basically been pushing their luck too much.

Having skimmed read some of the OFCOM reports, GB News has put in very clever and robust defences for each and every programme, on the basis of them being 'current affairs' programmes, which MPs' can present, even on a 'news channel', and not 'news' programmes, which they can't. However, OFCOM went into great detail about how they had blurred the lines too much between the 'news' and the more general 'current affairs' content, in all six cases* investigated, meaning they fitted into OFCOM's definition of being both 'news and current affairs' programmes, and therefore shouldn't be presented by MPs.

* However, in the 6th case, their defence on 'exceptionally' was accepted, because Rees-Mogg was doing his show live from a studio in the grounds of Buckingham Palace, and accidently became part of a breaking story, reporting that a controlled explosion had taken place and that police were evacuating people, including them and the GB News camera crew, from the Palace grounds. Which, TBF, is rather exceptional circumstances.



If GB News is very clever they will be a lot stricter ensuring the correct lines are kept between 'news' inserted into 'current affairs' programmes, but it'll be an editorial nightmare, and they will be skating on very thin ice, the slightest error is likely to result in another breach. The impression I am left with, is it's hard for OFCOM dealing with their claims they are 'current affairs' programmes, the lines are a bit blurred between 'news', 'current affairs', and 'news and current affairs' programmes, and that OFCOM has had enough of their games.

I hope that's all clear now!

I suspect it seems as clear as mud, but that's about sums up why it's so difficult for OFCOM.
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i appreciate all that, really.

But is it though? Mogg interviewing other Tories? Lee anderson interviewing Braverman? The McVeys intervewing other tories etc? They aren't discussing the weather so, while I understand the argument, I just don't buy it.
 
Karl Masks said:
i appreciate all that, really.

But is it though? Mogg interviewing other Tories? Lee anderson interviewing Braverman? The McVeys intervewing other tories etc? They aren't discussing the weather so, while I understand the argument, I just don't buy it.
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But, 'current affairs' programmes do deal with discussing what's in the news, and the rules covering them are a lot slacker than those covering 'news' programmes.
 
cupid_stunt said:
But, 'current affairs' programmes do deal with discussing what's in the news, and the rules covering them are a lot slacker than those covering 'news' programmes.
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It seems to me Ofcom are letting them get away with stuff and really they could, and should, act. Especially given we have a GE coming up. There's no way they should be allowed to proceed as is in that period, chilling effect or not
 
Karl Masks said:
It seems to me Ofcom are letting them get away with stuff and really they could, and should, act. Especially given we have a GE coming up. There's no way they should be allowed to proceed as is in that period, chilling effect or not
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My understanding is, IIRC, that once an election is called, anyone standing as a candidate will have to cease presenting programmes during the election period, again IIRC, this happened to both David Lammy and Farage with their shows on LBC.

Having read some of those reports, I can't see that OFCOM can do much outside that period, unless they break these two rules again, I am not happy about it, but it is what it is.
 
Silas Loom said:
Have you told him why you’ve stopped going there?
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What would that achieve? It's a very popular caff on the local industrial estate that's always busy. I doubt very much that my misgivings about his questionable choice of broadcast outlet would make a scrap of difference...
 
Nylock said:
What would that achieve? It's a very popular caff on the local industrial estate that's always busy. I doubt very much that my misgivings about his questionable choice of broadcast outlet would make a scrap of difference...
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You may well be right. In fact, you probably ARE right. But, for all you know, there may be others who feel the same, and may have taken the same step.

I am often quite surprised, when I find people I know who have been watching GBNews, how they haven't really stopped to question the dubiousness of its nature. They just see it as another mildly entertaining TV channel, and haven't really considered that it's actually a very biased and agenda-led propaganda platform, not a news channel.

But I don't think anyone should feel under any obligation to declare their boycott.
 
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