Galloway returns to Parliament in sensational win in Bradford West - Labour/Coalition smashed

[butchersapron]

I actually thought of re-joining Labour following the defeat last year and getting involved with the LRC, but each time I read one of your posts I remember why I left in the first place.

Read it an fuckng weep articul8 - you have no idea how you look. Old-school labour will spit on you.

 

[butchersapron]

I didn't say I was too good for you, I said I was too honest from my own good. Poor sinner I might be in other respects

You mean that you're a self-obsesseed prick?

 

[butchersapron]

Come down off the cross, we need the wood.

Burn them up there. He wants to be a saint.

 

[articul8]

didn't do Galloway's prospects any harm

 

[articul8]

Read it an fuckng weep articul8 - you have no idea how you look. Old-school labour will spit on you.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes. Your political radar as ever on the ball. Who pays this week?

 

[bolshiebhoy]

The trick as I see it is to be in the Labour party but not pretend you can justify your choice. We all do things we're not proud of in life!

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

The trick as I see it is to be in the Labour party but not pretend you can justify your choice. We all do things we're not proud of in life!

Exactly it's no different to working for some big City finance company setting up their systems, or serving fries in Maccy Ds.

 

[butchersapron]

That's exactly what this prick is failing to do. Nice to see you again - enjoying having a fascist as a manager?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

That's exactly what this prick is failing to do. Nice to see you again - enjoying having a fascist as a manager?

It's ok his missus is a Tory and he drinks with a skateboarding NFer in his local pub

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Lol. My NFer has been moved to another part of town unfortunately. Who is the fascist manager, is that the edl City fella story?

 

[butchersapron]

Di Canio ffs

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Oh sorry watching the rugby so on wrong wavelength for that question. Well I guess the question is how long can the team survive without GMB sponsorship!

 

[butchersapron]

Forever

 

[bolshiebhoy]

I did of course practice revolutionary defeatism against Chesterfield.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

So what's the consensus on GG here? Huge 2 fingers to the pro war pro austerity centre or a 'demographic' blip?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

So what's the consensus on GG here? Huge 2 fingers to the pro war pro austerity centre or a 'demographic' blip?

Divisive demographic blip...

 

[extra dry]

What is Respect stance on the coup in Africa?

 

[butchersapron]

What is Respect stance on the coup in Africa?

Big yeah

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Thought it was interesting Tariq Ali went out of his way in the Guardian to celebrate the result. I'm inclined to agree with him and not the 'sectarian islamophobes' (copyright SWP)

 

[audiotech]

Thought it was interesting Tariq Ali went out of his way in the Guardian to celebrate the result. I'm inclined to agree with him and not the 'sectarian islamophobes' (copyright SWP)

Tariq Ali told people to cast their votes for the Lib-Dems at the last election.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Wasn't that 2005?

 

[extra dry]

Yep, I agree. I don't doubt that local issues were crucial to his winning, but he is a credible anti-labour candidate because he opposed labour's wars.

Will Britain need a war PM in the near future?

 

[extra dry]

We as a nation should record this result in the cloud information for no one in five years time will remember this...well most of us

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Will Britain need a war PM in the near future?

Support for the wars of the last decade or so says a lot about who a person is and the agenda and interests they serve. Britain needs a PM who does not serve that agenda or those interests.

 

[ViolentPanda]

because you're like idiot children who laugh to themselves all day long - and make about as much sense?

Ah, the prophet who is without honour in his own land, as opposed to merely a prophet without honour.

 

[ayatollah]

The 74 manifesto was the most radical (with possible exception of 45) that Labour has ever fought an election on.

OK, they weren't able to hold them to implementing it - that is unarguable. And Benn failed by telling the left he was making his case privately around the cabinet table [which to be fair he was] rather than mobilising for democratic reforms to the party when in government. But you can imagine the pressure ("you're recking a Labour government and helping the Tories to gain power"), so he waited till after the election and the right discredited itself. Not that they cared, they fucked off and formed the SDP and helped Thatcher stay in for 18 years.

Whether the '74 Manifesto was the most "radical" since 1945 I dunno, but it got Labour back in - on a wave of HUGE working class unrest/strike action, defeat of the Heath government by the miners, the revolutionery Left was on an unprecedented upward roll (the IS had about 80 FACTORY branches by 74 !). Labour gets in in 1974 -- COMPLETELY demobilizes the struggle via the "Social Contract" garbage , and lots of Downing street cuddly deals with the TU leadership. The wave of late 60's and early 70's militancy is "contained" - the wave ebbs -- trade union militancy, and the growing strength of the Far Left falls away rapidly...... hey presto... Labour has done its traditional job for the bosses. In a few years Thatcher will get in and the stage is set , here, and in the USA , for the biggest transfer of income from poor to rich since Victorian Times. Face it ... Labour is an ENEMY of the working class ... working to "turn it Left".. is a sick joke. ALL that the Left winger working in it does is , EITHER , demoralise himself/herself, OR, more usually, set himself/herself up for a later sell out and move to the right, and a career as yet another Labourite Council or Parliamentary shitbag. Where are you so far in this process, articul8 ?

 

[articul8]

mostly demoralised, but hoping against better judgement

 

[articul8]

Interesting report from young Labour volunteer:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sean-dolat/bradford-west-a-view-from-the-ground/10150635414247016

esp

Galloway constantly promoted himself as the ‘Real’ Labour candidate, I think this helped people change sides with greater ease. His election speech was also about cementing that switching of sides. The speech was bizarre in a way, it was full of praise of the Labour party and it’s traditions and how he craves the old party back, he even said on Sky that he wants to see a Labour government in 2015![/quote}

 

[butchersapron]

Yet more evidence that joining labour because its shit is the future!