Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[Pickman's model]

Perhaps the publicity seeking Bone and his acolytes should have targetted a bigger place? The cowardly little trolls.

so size matters to you. interesting.

 

[no-no]

Oh dear.
It's not about any of that. It's about creating a spectacle that gets publicised. The spectacle draws in those interested in the politics, and while you're "woe is me"-ing about motivations, Class War are getting on with the grassroots stuff they do, and planning the next spectacle.

So, in this case what has the spectacle accomplished? It's drawn in people interested in politics, that's good. But what's happening about the council selling off social housing to developers or the rising rent in the area? How do you affect that sort of thing without taking into account public opinion, local MPs and votes....

I'm not being snarky, I actually want to know.....

 

[Pickman's model]

So, in this case what has the spectacle accomplished? It's drawn in people interested in politics, that's good. But what's happening about the council selling off social housing to developers or the rising rent in the area? How do you affect that sort of thing without taking into account public opinion, local MPs and votes....

I'm not being snarky, I actually want to know.....

seems to me you missed the nine months of demonstrations about the poor doors at 1 commercial street last year

 

[butchersapron]

It is, rather.

Isn't it interesting when a bunch of middle class white guys can terrorise shop owners and customers and get applauded for it?

Is the whole thread full of this stuff? Please tell me it is.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They won't draw in many, I'll warrant.

In the last 40 years they've given no indication of wanting to be a mass movement, so your point kind of misses the point.

I wonder how many people out ther would now like to chuck paint at Bone's place of work?

And, talking of non-sequiturs...

 

[butchersapron]

It is, rather.

Isn't it interesting when a bunch of middle class white guys can terrorise shop owners and customers and get applauded for it?

What especial rights do you believe owning a shop gives you?

 

[cesare]

Is the whole thread full of this stuff? Please tell me it is.

It is. Krtek's only just joined it though.

 

[Pickman's model]

It is. Krtek's only just joined it though.

yeh he wanted to dump all over it so everyone would know he's still alive.

 

[cesare]

yeh he wanted to dump all over it so everyone would know he's still alive.

He's upping the handwringing because he thinks that extra handwringing will result in Class War repenting

 

[Pickman's model]

He's upping the handwringing because he thinks that extra handwringing will result in Class War repenting

it's that auld catholick guilt he's trying to assuage.

 

[cesare]

it's that auld catholick guilt he's trying to assuage.

He should be feeling guilty for introducing the blood libel trope

 

[butchersapron]

It is, rather.

Isn't it interesting when a bunch of middle class white guys can terrorise shop owners and customers and get applauded for it?

How did you divine the class background of the people that you talk about? Is there not more rejoicing over one sinner that repenteth than well, what are you lot? The lot who symbolically decry symbols.

 

[krtek a houby]

it doesn't matter if you have been to whitechapel in the dim and distant past or indeed at any point. you weren't there on the night so you don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about.

Were you there on the night?

 

[Pickman's model]

He should be feeling guilty for introducing the blood libel trope

he should do what that other judas did.

 

[butchersapron]

They won't draw in many, I'll warrant.

I wonder how many people out ther would now like to chuck paint at Bone's place of work?

Attack oaps demands hate crazed immigrant.

 

[Pickman's model]

Were you there on the night?

so what if i was?

 

[cesare]

he should do what that other judas did.

The gospel according to krtek, buried in the desert for a thousand years.

 

[krtek a houby]

it's that auld catholick guilt he's trying to assuage.

Speak for yourself.

 

[cesare]

Attack oaps demands hate crazed immigrant.

 

[Pickman's model]

The gospel according to krtek, buried in the desert for a thousand years.

i was thinking of something that didn't require him to be dug up in 3015.

 

[no-no]

seems to me you missed the nine months of demonstrations about the poor doors at 1 commercial street last year

I did, yes, how did that go down then?

 

[krtek a houby]

so what if i was?

Well, perhaps you could tell me what you achieved?

 

[Pickman's model]

Speak for yourself.

i am not and never have been a catholick so very difficult to have that auld catholick guilt.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So, in this case what has the spectacle accomplished? It's drawn in people interested in politics, that's good. But what's happening about the council selling off social housing to developers or the rising rent in the area? How do you affect that sort of thing without taking into account public opinion, local MPs and votes....

I'm not being snarky, I actually want to know.....

What makes you believe that Class War aren't involved in engaging with those issues, or with locals? I was never a "member" of CW, but I went on the same actions and got involved in the same grassroots causes, and they have a stand-out record of getting stuff done on the ground. You're assuming they're day-trippers, when the truth is that they're either locals, or people living in areas undergoing similar "regeneration".
You wonder why people the UK over recognise the terms "hipster" and "gentrification"? Because they're shorthand for processes that are affecting everywhere, from Brick Lane to small villages throughout the UK.

 

[butchersapron]

So, in this case what has the spectacle accomplished? It's drawn in people interested in politics, that's good. But what's happening about the council selling off social housing to developers or the rising rent in the area? How do you affect that sort of thing without taking into account public opinion, local MPs and votes....

I'm not being snarky, I actually want to know.....

How could it be anything other than a start point? Demanding that it produces final victory here and now? Who's talking fantasy stuff here?

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, perhaps you could tell me what you achieved?

i very much enjoyed myself, which is always a good thing.

 

[krtek a houby]

The gospel according to krtek, buried in the desert for a thousand years.

Ad hominem attacks. That's helpful.

 

[cesare]

Well, perhaps you could tell me what you achieved?

You doing full seethe is quite an achievement. Especially if accompanied by a disapproving look and maybe a tut. Or even a letter to Fitz.

 

[Pickman's model]

I did, yes, how did that go down then?

very well, i thought. although not with the police or all the residents of 1 commercial street.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Is the whole thread full of this stuff? Please tell me it is.

It is, and worse.