Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[cesare]

ffs

 

[butchersapron]

Why did Bone and co. target a small independent business, though? Will they be attacking other small independent, family run businesses in the area?

Yes

 

[ViolentPanda]

My problem with gentrification is that it assumes lots of 'poor people' are making some exodus somewhere worse and that richer people are moving in. It doesn't account for the fact that in a good economy like ours people in general get richer as time goes by. It's not necessarily new rich people who live in an area, it's just people getting on and earning a few more bob.

You appear to be mistaking a rise in total volume of wealth, with more people getting more money as time goes by. Balanced for price inflation, the income of the bottom 70% of society has stayed static - no "real terms" rise. The top 3 deciles get wealthier, the mid 4 have stayed static, and the bottom 3 deciles - well,we're getting poorer.

 

[butchersapron]

This word, 'independent', what does it mean?

 

[butchersapron]

Why did Bone and co. target a small independent business, though? Will they be attacking other small independent, family run businesses in the area?

Why did you introduce family btw? Are you pro family?

 

[ViolentPanda]

All the people going on about the real enemies, the people who should be targeted - tell me how. Tell me exactly how.

They haven't got a clue, they just want people to stop doing the nasty thing that offends their delicate sensibilities.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Why did Bone and co. target a small independent business, though? Will they be attacking other small independent, family run businesses in the area?

They didn't "target" it, as in "planned to march on the cafe", it was a "target of opportunity" they encountered while marching, and served as a ready symbol of the gentrification of the area.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I worry it turns off people who are on the fence over issues like gentrification. It becomes easy for them to disregard perfectly valid complaints like rocketing rents, social housing being sold and redeveloped. It feels like handing a PR piece to the rightwing press.

I'm sorry, but that's patently bollocks. Anyone swayed by such a fleeting and vainglorious event as the smoking-out of a cafe wasn't "on the fence" to start with.

I don't have an issue with attacking property to get attention, other targets? Foxtons? Town Hall? Any other chains in the area? There must be a tesco's nearby....How? treat them exactly as the cereal shop was treated? Would that be less effective? I say all this because I know I'm going to end up having an argument about this with certain relatives of mine and I also know they just won't be able to see past the cereal shop being smashed up.

They smashed up an estate agency.

You'd have known that if you weren't talking bollocks!

 

[Pickman's model]

Why did Bone and co. target a small independent business, though? Will they be attacking other small independent, family run businesses in the area?

we've gone through this several times on this thread. how many more times do you need it explained to you?

 

[stethoscope]

Most chains start off as independent and 'family-run' petit-bourgeois. Anyway, these two brothers have two fucking cafes now, and the one that was attacked has a manager running daily affairs too. And then they'll be the staff. 'Small-shopkeeper' concern bollocks.

 

[Pickman's model]

Why did Bone and co. target a small independent business, though? Will they be attacking other small independent, family run businesses in the area?

will you make a sensible, well-informed post?

 

[Pickman's model]

ffs

it's krtek proving he's dwyer's cousin

 

[ViolentPanda]

broke is where you have to walk to work and back and maybe have a bag of crisps or a roll (just a roll) for dinner.

A roll? You don't know you're born. I'm talking raw dry pasta and the scraping from the bottom of the fridge!

 

[stethoscope]

And I see they were blessed with Boris' attendance yesterday too who popped in for a bowl and supportive words.

 

[cesare]

it's krtek proving he's dwyer's cousin

he's proving that he either hasn't read the thread or isn't capable of grasping what's already been said (over and over again)

 

[Pickman's model]

A roll? You don't know you're born. I'm talking raw dry pasta and the scraping from the bottom of the fridge!

why didn't you cook the pasta in your own urine so stop it being so hard?

 

[Pickman's model]

he's proving that he either hasn't read the thread or isn't capable of grasping what's already been said (over and over again)

once again, cesare, it's not either/or but and.

 

[krtek a houby]

we've gone through this several times on this thread. how many more times do you need it explained to you?

Hey, it's a big thread and I'm not very clever, as you well know. I'm curious as to why they didn't target Starbucks or the bigger chains. Picking on a couple of bearded brothers doesn't make sense.

 

[cesare]

once again, cesare, it's not either/or but and.

fair play

 

[krtek a houby]

They didn't "target" it, as in "planned to march on the cafe", it was a "target of opportunity" they encountered while marching, and served as a ready symbol of the gentrification of the area.

They picked on a couple of people who were different and didn't fit in.

 

[ffsear]

Hey, it's a big thread and I'm not very clever, as you well know. I'm curious as to why they didn't target Starbucks or the bigger chains. Picking on a couple of bearded brothers doesn't make sense.

Higher risk of them getting a kicking. Bunch of cunts

 

[ViolentPanda]

why didn't you cook the pasta in your own urine so stop it being so hard?

Enuresis.

 

[cesare]

They picked on a couple of people who were different and didn't fit in.

They're not different, it's bloody swarming with people like them

 

[stethoscope]

They picked on a couple of people who were different and didn't fit in.

Bing! You score 2 points. It's almost like this must have been debunked before.

 

[krtek a houby]

Higher risk of them getting a kicking.

Interesting. Violence against bearded people. What does that remind me of?

 

[Pickman's model]

They picked on a couple of people who were different and didn't fit in.

i sense you're feeling some empathy here.

 

[Pickman's model]

Interesting. Violence against bearded people. What does that remind me of?

 

[cesare]

They killed Jesus too!

 

[ViolentPanda]

They picked on a couple of people who were different and didn't fit in.

No they didn't.
I know how you tend to refer everything back to your own experiences of "being different", but frankly you're looking up an elephant's arse here. A place, a business establishment was (rather gently) attacked, not the pathetically-bearded and pomaded fops who run the joint. It was targeted because, as a venue that does its business selling overpriced pap to the gullible, it represents a facet of life-stylism redolent of gentrification.

 

[Pickman's model]

No they didn't.
I know how you tend to refer everything back to your own experiences of "being different", but frankly you're looking up an elephant's arse here. A place, a business establishment was (rather gently) attacked, not the pathetically-bearded and pomaded fops who run the joint. It was targeted because, as a venue that does its business selling overpriced pap to the gullible, it represents a facet of life-stylism redolent of gentrification.

a diarrhetick elephant's arse has more charm and comes out with better sense (and scents) then krtek.