Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[cesare]

Ad hominem attacks. That's helpful.

Thank you. You're welcome

 

[krtek a houby]

i am not and never have been a catholick so very difficult to have that auld catholick guilt.

How odd of you to bring in religion, then.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Were you there on the night?

Because, of course, you should always out yourself on a bulletin board!

 

[Pickman's model]

How odd of you to bring in religion, then.

by no means. you brought it in before: as well you know.

 

[no-no]

What makes you believe that Class War aren't involved in engaging with those issues, or with locals? I was never a "member" of CW, but I went on the same actions and got involved in the same grassroots causes, and they have a stand-out record of getting stuff done on the ground. You're assuming they're day-trippers, when the truth is that they're either locals, or people living in areas undergoing similar "regeneration".
You wonder why people the UK over recognise the terms "hipster" and "gentrification"? Because they're shorthand for processes that are affecting everywhere, from Brick Lane to small villages throughout the UK.

You're assuming all that stuff mate, I'm not having a go here....it's just that you said it had nothign to do with public opinion, votes ,politicians etc....I've heard this said before but never understood how you can affect change without those things being involved.....short of toppling those in power through force.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Attack oaps demands hate crazed immigrant.

"Attack sick OAPs...", don't you mean?

 

[Pickman's model]

Ad hominem attacks. That's helpful.

i'm not sure they are 'ad hominem' if they're directed at a snake in the grass.

 

[Belushi]

How odd of you to bring in religion, then.

I'll bite. You're obviously hinting at something in your posts on this thread, why don't you just spit it out?

 

[krtek a houby]

You doing full seethe is quite an achievement. Especially if accompanied by a disapproving look and maybe a tut. Or even a letter to Fitz.

Full seethe? Fitz?

 

[butchersapron]

"Attack sick OAPs...", don't you mean?

The more you hear about this krtek lad the worse he sounds.

 

[cesare]

Full seethe? Fitz?

Yes.

 

[krtek a houby]

by no means. you brought it in before: as well you know.

Did I really?

 

[cesare]

Did I really?

Yes.

 

[no-no]

How could it be anything other than a start point? Demanding that it produces final victory here and now? Who's talking fantasy stuff here.?

How could it be anything other than a start point? Demanding that it produces final victory here and now? Who's talking fantasy stuff here?

I'm not demanding a final victory at all, just dubious about the effects of attacking targets like this.

 

[krtek a houby]

i'm not sure they are 'ad hominem' if they're directed at a snake in the grass.

I don't follow.

I'm not part of your willy waving club. I dissent against the opinion that attacking small business is a good thing.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You're assuming all that stuff mate, I'm not having a go here....it's just that you said it had nothign to do with public opinion, votes ,politicians etc....I've heard this said before but never understood how you can affect change without those things being involved.....short of toppling those in power through force.

I'm not assuming any of it. Anarchists (Class War or otherwise, unless they're Trustafarian lifestyler wank-rags) tend to live and work in the communities they protest in. We also tend to be quite active in grassroots community projects.
How do we change stuff? We take whatever route works best at the time, but generally we affect change bit by bit from the ground-up. You, you're thinking in terms of party politics and power.I think in terms of highlighting power's contradictions so that those who exercise it are revealed as the venal pig-fuckers they are.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yes.

Still doesn't make sense.

 

[Pickman's model]

Did I really?

yes. yes, you did.

 

[cesare]

I don't follow.

I'm not part of your willy waving club. I dissent against the opinion that attacking small business is a good thing.

How about if it was a small business selling lampshades made of human skin?

 

[Pickman's model]

Still doesn't make sense.

your contributions rarely do.

 

[The Flying Pig]

but they're not innocent in the matter. their shop is deliberately sited to get trade from gentrifiers. their shop is deliberately provocative - see the c4 interview where they refuse to answer the question about the price of their cereal. it's the offbeat sort of shop so beloved of gentrifiers and their class. if this shop was in belsize park no one would bat an eyelid at it. but it's not, its target market is not the middle classes of hampstead but younger gentrifiers.

Well spotted good undercover work Jeeves!

 

[krtek a houby]

yes. yes, you did.

I made a comparison to attacks on people with beards, people who don't fit in, people who are seen as different.

You started banging on about catholic guilt.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't follow.

I'm not part of your willy waving club. I dissent against the opinion that attacking small business is a good thing.

every day when i wake up i thank the lord you're not part of my willy waving club.

 

[krtek a houby]

your contributions rarely do.

It must be like looking in the mirror for you. I guess that's why you excell at your job here on urban.

 

[Pickman's model]

I made a comparison to attacks on people with beards, people who don't fit in, people who are seen as different.

You started banging on about catholic guilt.

you were referring to blood libel.

 

[krtek a houby]

every day when i wake up i thank the lord you're not part of my willy waving club.

Oh, you're awake are you? I couldn't tell.

 

[The Flying Pig]

All the people going on about the real enemies, the people who should be targeted - tell me how. Tell me exactly how.

If you really don't know how you have not even reached base camp on the very long road of struggle against the current system

 

[butchersapron]

I don't follow.

I'm not part of your willy waving club. I dissent against the opinion that attacking small business is a good thing.

Has anyone put that context free case? Please point to it,.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh, you're awake are you? I couldn't tell.

i would say 'don't make yourself look stupid' but we both know it would be too little, too late.

 

[krtek a houby]

you were referring to blood libel.

I don't know what blood libel is. I was thinking of Muslims being attacked; if that's what blood libel is.