Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[Pickman's model]

If even 20% of the protesters were genuinely local that would be a massively exciting development. Most people affected by gentrification quietly move on to a better life in the suburbs, and wouldn't go back even if they could.

So who are these people who turned up en masse and decided to dictate who can and cannot set up a business? What makes them any better than the people whose cafe they trashed?

I will donate £10 to a charity of your choice for every born and bred local arrested, if you do the same for every outsider who, like the hipsters, has chosen to move in and change the area to what they think it should be.

so you're saying most people affectrd by gentrification move to the suburbs. so why are so many people affected by gentrufication moving to eg brick lane?

 

[sim667]

So I've just bought a box of cereal for £2, which cleary states on the front its 18 servings, so by my calculations they're making £63..... whats that a 3000% mark up? ( I may be wrong, percentages have never been my strong point).

 

[sim667]

If even 20% of the protesters were genuinely local that would be a massively exciting development. Most people affected by gentrification quietly move on to a better life in the suburbs, and wouldn't go back even if they could.

So who are these people who turned up en masse and decided to dictate who can and cannot set up a business? What makes them any better than the people whose cafe they trashed?

I will donate £10 to a charity of your choice for every born and bred local arrested, if you do the same for every outsider who, like the hipsters, has chosen to move in and change the area to what they think it should be.

There was only 1 person arrested, so you're not exactly raising the stakes are you?

 

[stethoscope]

So I've just bought a box of cereal for £2, which cleary states on the front its 18 servings, so by my calculations they're making £63..... whats that a 3000% mark up? ( I may be wrong, percentages have never been my strong point).

That ain't working, that's the way you do it,
Get your money for nothing...

(one for @DotCommunist there )

 

[marty21]

So I've just bought a box of cereal for £2, which cleary states on the front its 18 servings, so by my calculations they're making £63..... whats that a 3000% mark up? ( I may be wrong, percentages have never been my strong point).

How much are you paying yourself to prepare those servings , how much for your premises , how much for the energy you use , the milk ,etc . They are not making 3000 %

 

[stethoscope]

How much are you paying yourself to prepare those servings , how much for your premises , how much for the energy you use , the milk ,etc . They are not making 3000 %

No it's not tbf. And they're also importing cereals from the USA too which must cost a bit more.

Still, to set up something as specific as a cereal 'cafe', in a part of London now where business rates must be now pretty expensive, there must be returns to make from it surely?

 

[marty21]

No it's not tbf. And they're also importing cereals from the USA too which must cost a bit more.

Still, to set up something as specific as a cereal 'cafe', in a part of London now where business rates must be now pretty expensive, there must be returns to make from it surely?

of course they are making a profit

 

[sim667]

How much are you paying yourself to prepare those servings , how much for your premises , how much for the energy you use , the milk ,etc . They are not making 3000 %

If they're selling a £2 box of cereal for £63, then it is a 3000% markup.....

Premises, energy, staff are not covered by the term "markup", "markup" is how much you increase the value of the goods you've bought to sell on

 

[stethoscope]

of course they are making a profit

Quite.

Also, given its area, anybody think the 'edgy' play on 'serial killer' is proper iffy. Just like that fucking Women'sRipper museum.

 

[cesare]

Quite.

Also, given its area, anybody think the 'edgy' play on 'serial killer' is proper iffy. Just like that fucking Women'sRipper museum.

Yep. Although at least it's not masquerading as a homage to the lives of East End women.

 

[sim667]

Quite.

Also, given its area, anybody think the 'edgy' play on 'serial killer' is proper iffy. Just like that fucking Women'sRipper museum.

They've got a portrait of hannibal lecter made out of cheerios on the wall too.

 

[Pickman's model]

They've got a portrait of hannibal lecter made out of cheerios on the wall too.

and a jumper made from unravelled shredded wheat depicting the queen mum, handmade by artisans fresh from artschool

 

[Pickman's model]

so you're saying most people affectrd by gentrification move to the suburbs. so why are so many people affected by gentrufication moving to eg brick lane?

Sparkle Motion

 

[stethoscope]

and a jumper made from unravelled shredded wheat depicting the queen mum, handmade by artisans fresh from artschool

Loyalists then.

 

[cesare]

They've got a portrait of hannibal lecter made out of cheerios on the wall too.

Actual Cheerios or wooden/plastic versions?

 

[Pickman's model]

Loyalists then.

sadly so

 

[Pickman's model]

Actual Cheerios or wooden/plastic versions?

genuine regurgitated cheerios

 

[cesare]

genuine regurgitated cheerios

Ugh. Can you imagine how soft and musty dusty real ones would be?

 

[IC3D]

sim667 I just want to say right now you don't get 18 servings out of a packet of cereal.

 

[joustmaster]

If they're selling a £2 box of cereal for £63, then it is a 3000% markup.....

Premises, energy, staff are not covered by the term "markup", "markup" is how much you increase the value of the goods you've bought to sell on

They sell english cereal from £2.50
I guess the portion size n the side of the box is on the smaller size. These things usually are.

 

[cesare]

sim667 I just want to say right now you don't get 18 servings out of a packet of cereal.

Probably cereal killer sized portions.

 

[Pickman's model]

sim667 I just want to say right now you don't get 18 servings out of a packet of cereal.

sim does. sim's a miser.

 

[Pickman's model]

sim667 I just want to say right now you don't get 18 servings out of a packet of cereal.

have you noticed that when you go to a posh restaurant and spend lots of money you get fuck all food?

 

[stethoscope]

sim667 I just want to say right now you don't get 18 servings out of a packet of cereal.

You do in an ala carte cereal dish.

 

[newbie]

well there has to be some mechanism (or mechanisms) for the exchange of goods and services. No man is a swiss army knife of talents to build a train and plough a field and then run a market stall. Interesting to note that some of the tokens of exchange between early tribal socities signified less the value of the item but its currency as a signifier, not too far removed from how our currency today is utterly worthless in what it is but in what it symbolises and how it is backed is the thing. Neverheless, exchange and money as a technology are not capitalism and no amount of revisionism will change that

are you sure?

seems to me that if you and I receive the same tokens for the same work, week by week, and I choose to go to the pub of an evening and exchange mine for beer, while you stay at home to dead-head the roses, at the end of our lives you have some beautiful roses and a pile of tokens (to hand to your kids?), and I have a smelly corner in the alley on the way home.

Once that pile is accumulated we are straight into capitalism, as an inevitable result of the token basis of exchange, whether or not I borrow some of it to drink more than I can afford.

 

[fredfelt]

So I've just bought a box of cereal for £2, which cleary states on the front its 18 servings, so by my calculations they're making £63..... whats that a 3000% mark up? ( I may be wrong, percentages have never been my strong point).

You spend £2 on a box of cereal! Do you have any idea how much they are making out of selling you that sugary muck! About a billion percent.

As you are worried about adding value you should buy porridge.

 

[Dowie]

Bit naive to think " the machine " is always the lumbering beast with a big " capitalist baddie" sign on it tbh

even more naive to think it is a cafe run by a couple of people with beards

 

[chilango]

have you noticed that when you go to a posh restaurant and spend lots of money you get fuck all food?

You're going to the wrong posh restaurants then.

 

[cesare]

3 Rice Krispies artfully arranged on the corner of a rectangular piece of reclaimed slate, with a dash of yoghurt smeared next to it, pointing towards the middle

 

[stethoscope]

Once that pile is accumulated we are straight into capitalism, as an inevitable result of the token basis of exchange, whether or not I borrow some of it to drink more than I can afford.

As capitalism is about the means of production, and not merely the use/exchange of tokens, no.