AverageJoe
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Reports of another shooting and hostage taken in another part of Paris
who do you think they'd have shot?
Is it? Did Martin Doherty have his two year old child with him?
but your assertion is they were kill-crazy cultists, from the tenor of your posts.if they were thwarted in their mission, fuck knows.
if they were thwarted in their mission, fuck knows.
Dick. Once adrenaline levels get high enough, making well-considered decisions becomes impossible. You have no idea how you would have reacted in her situation.i don't know: but i like to think i would have the gumption to think about other people who wouldn't be offered the opportunity to get out in one piece.
yeh. but it wouldn't have been so easy as security would have been improved.They would have carried on going after CH, albeit delayed a bit.
buddy, what we do here is read people's posts and then respond rather than look at people's posts: and saying 'you don't know' when they have already said 'i don't know' makes you look a bit thick.Dick. Once adrenaline levels get high enough, making well-considered decisions becomes impossible. You have no idea how you would have reacted in her situation.
tbh if the woman who gave them the code had had the same backbone as martin doherty, the body count at ch might have been considerably lower.
i'm entirely up for moving on but i don't think everyone else is.pickmans: you can just accept that your post was a bit crass, and then we can move on?
i like to think i would have the gumption
when they have already said 'i don't know'
I don't believe human flesh is kosher so I don't see how a hostage can be described as such.At least one Kosher grocery hostage in Paris according to TV. What a mega fuck up by the police.
not the words i'd have chosen. but i would have thought there'd have been some small discussion about security at ch: it's not as though no one had ever considered an attack on their offices.You are comparing her to a trained up member of a paramilitary terrorist group who was willing to give up his life for his cause to a women with her child just going about her normal everyday business? Yeah seems fair enough to me. What a spineless coward she is.
what were the first three words of the post to which you took exception?
ffs. i am not blaming her for it (after all she didn't conjure up the gunmen), i am saying - and i don't think it's a great leap into the unknown - that if she hadn't provided access to the code fewer people would have died.
He seems to have seen himself as some sort of combatant in a wartbh if the woman who gave them the code had had the same backbone as martin doherty, the body count at ch might have been considerably lower.
there's the accepting you said something a bit crass thing that needs attending to before we do that.i'm entirely up for moving on but i don't think everyone else is.
er... what was on at the widow scallan's that night in 1994 was a social, not a meeting of the army councilNo you didn't. You said she ought to have been as brave as a member of the IRA protecting his superiors.
Brave and IRA do not belong in the same sentenceNo you didn't. You said she ought to have been as brave as a member of the IRA protecting his superiors.
you think i said something crass. i don't agree with you. i am not going to agree with you just because you want me to.there's the accepting you said something a bit crass thing that needs attending to before we do that.
i never said there was you stupid prat.Brave and IRA do not belong in the same sentence
Please don't fall for PIckmans derail - there is no Irish Republican angle on whats happening in France
you think i said something crass. i don't agree with you. i am not going to agree with you just because you want me to.
It was in reply something posted by modi never said there was you stupid prat.
then I think you're going to struggle in your endeavour to move on.you think i said something crass. i don't agree with you. i am not going to agree with you just because you want me to.