French magazine publishes controversial cartoons of Prophet Muhammad - many killed in revenge attack

[gentlegreen]

Assassins Creed Unity, especially the scene near the Bastille is calling out for a photo-shop.

It appears to be a (presumably violent) computer game.

 

[DexterTCN]

From twitter.

 

[coley]

tbh military hand signals aren't exactly a state secret. any terrorist worth his salt is going to have carried out some training, and when ears might be ringing from gunshots using signals a fairly obvious thing to do.

Fair point, but going off the footage it seems reasonable to assume they would be wearing 'plug in' ear defenders.

 

[Paulie]

NBC news appears to be reporting one dead suspect and two arrested, with US counterterrorism officials said to be the source.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-attack-suspect-dead-two-custody-n281761

This page now includes a stream of the NBC Nightly News from about 30 mins ago. The claim of arrest and death has been repeated though I can't see anyone else reporting this.

 

[coley]

You can chart the reasons why Islamists have gained politically in the last few decades. But they will still be Islamists doing Islamist things and justifying them with their particular interpretation of the Quran.

I don't have any answers really. I got it very wrong about the UK. Twenty years ago, I assumed that the second and third generation Pakistani British would turn out generally less religious and more secular in their outlook than their parents and grandparents. I was wrong.

But were you? Have you a link regarding the proportion of those generations? Possibly you might find the majority have taken the road you envisioned (I had the same thoughts) but the small minority who didn't are the ones grabbing the headlines?

 

[coley]

Why not? If they hate Islam, why should they keep quiet about it?

For fear of being permabanned?

 

[JTG]

Bells' take on it all.

My god, he's crap

 

[Sue]

He's always crap. Have never understood why people go on about how good he is. Baffling.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

I used to cut them out and stick them on my wall (fifteen years ago) The Hague and Widdicombe ones were funny, I promise...

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

He's always crap. Have never understood why people go on about how good he is. Baffling.

Never understood why Bell is so rated. He's got a good eye for a caricature, but his cartoons just recycle the same old shite all the time. FFS Matt in the Telegraph is way more incisive.

 

[alfajobrob]

Never understood why Bell is so rated. He's got a good eye for a caricature, but his cartoons just recycle the same old shite all the time. FFS Matt in the Telegraph is way more incisive.

He does a good line in Condom Dave.....but that was shit.

I'd have just sent this in if I was him

 

[not-bono-ever]

 

[alfajobrob]

What?

 

[Notapaedo]

If you tolerate this then your children will be next

 

[alfajobrob]

If you tolerate this then your children will be next

Eh....pls explain.

 

[Notapaedo]

I don't know why people are scared of those shitbags. It's not even religious it's some gangster thing and you can't see it at all you pretend it's relevant to your history club. It's a criminal organisation

 

[FNG]

one handed himself in
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/on...-attack-in-france-2015-01-07?siteid=rss&rss=1

The other two suspects are believed to have recently returned from syria, they spent 3 years in jail for previously trying to join the insurgency in Iraq
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe...e-hebdo-shooting/story-fnh81p7g-1227178325889

 

[Jay Park]

This isn't really about Islam. It is political. Anybody blaming Islam would do well to think about history rather than prejudice.

Mentioned few pages back was the massacre of Algerians by Maurice Papon in 1961. The film Cache by Michael Hanake is partly inspired by those events, about how repression of history can lead to outbursts of violence, that the tranquility enjoyed by the privileged is based on historical violence.

There are lessons to be learned here, and none of them are really about Islam.

I read Cache with the Iraq war in mind, thanks

 

[Notapaedo]

Yeah likewise, the nazis weren't really racist when you understand it through the prism of a lot of theories

I mean, what is anything man.

 

[Notapaedo]

Wipe the Muslims off the face of the earth, they are a cancer on humanity

 

[Flavour]

Fuck off fash

 

[SpineyNorman]

Wipe the Muslims off the face of the earth, they are a cancer on humanity

Who the fuck is this twat?

Also, I can only think of one reason why someone would register with the username notapaedo. And that's if they in fact are secretly a paedo.

 

[DotCommunist]

ninj

 

[Pickman's model]

Who the fuck is this twat?

Also, I can only think of one reason why someone would register with the username notapaedo. And that's if they in fact are secretly a paedo.

tbh it's the first thing you think when you see that sort of name so not much of a secret

 

[redsquirrel]

Fuck off fash

Nah it's ninjaboy being a twat.

 

[maomao]

So Ninjaboy is a paedo then? Wow.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Nah it's ninjaboy being a twat.

Not sure if the two are mutually exclusive these days though.

 

[elbows]

one handed himself in
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/on...-attack-in-france-2015-01-07?siteid=rss&rss=1

There is plenty of talk about the suspect who handed himself in, and the fact that classmates say he was in class with them at the time of the attacks.

eg: https://storify.com/reportedly/mouradhamydinnocent

 

[Mr Moose]

This appears to be a case of French citizens killing other (extremely famous) French citizens, including the armed police there to protect them, in the centre of Paris, in the middle of the day, and escaping (thus far) and you would prefer to see the operational significance disregarded for fear the perpetrators appearing "attractive". To whom?

I'm not saying that at all, they were clearly more competent than many recent attackers. But talking up their 'professionalism' was premature speculation rather than fact. As more facts emerge they appear basically trained soldiers and ragged if ruthless assassins.

I'm not sure why you would ask who the notion of super efficient jihadist warriors would appeal to as if enough young people in the UK and France haven't already jumped ship to go to Syria and join IS at the great distress of their families.

 

[Ponyutd]

Another policeman shot in France....breaking story.