Freeman-on-the-land idiocies

[DaveCinzano]

Dont often get a chance to do quotes like this:

The incident followed Mr Brookes being sent a series of letters between March 2022 and April 2023, accusing him of being a "detrimental necromancer" who must face corporal punishment.

"I thought this was odd, to say the least," Mr Brookes said.

Just the sort of thing a detrimental necromancer would say, I think we can all agree

 

[two sheds]

I bet that whoever wrote that gets lights that beam into his bedroom at night. Beaming in.

 

[gentlegreen]

The tl:dr school of filibustering ...

 

[cupid_stunt]

I bet that whoever wrote that gets lights that beam into his bedroom at night. Beaming in.

I had that where I lived, before moving here in Dec.

Apparently they are called 'street lights'.

 

[T & P]

Can't decide if yet another basket case or taking the piss...

Magistrates decide on trial by combat

JOBLESS mechanic Leon Humphreys shocked magistrates by demanding the right to trial by combat under medieval law when he appeared at a Suffolk…

www.ipswichstar.co.uk

 

[cupid_stunt]

Can't decide if yet another basket case or taking the piss...

Magistrates decide on trial by combat

JOBLESS mechanic Leon Humphreys shocked magistrates by demanding the right to trial by combat under medieval law when he appeared at a Suffolk…

www.ipswichstar.co.uk

A basket case that's taking the piss.

 

[two sheds]

Unarmed Combat accepted. The Crown nominates the British MMA winner as its Champion.

 

[T & P]

Deadpan comic or a fan of Game of Thrones

"I am willing to fight a champion put up by the DVLA if they want to accept my challenge – but they must remember it is a fight to the death.


"The victor speaks in the name of God and justice so it is a reasonable enough way of sorting the matter out.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Fair enough, a 25 quid fine for not SORNing your motorbike is well worth fighting to the death over.

 

[Voley]

Oh that's brilliant. A fight to the death, no less.

 

[Voley]

Deadpan comic or a fan of Game of Thrones

 

[MickiQ]

My brother SORN's his motorbike every year from the end of September until the end of the next March, it literally takes him about 20 seconds online to do it, takes him far longer to put it in the garage, drain the tank and put a tarpaulin over it.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

My brother SORN's his motorbike every year from the end of September until the end of the next March, it literally takes him about 20 seconds online to do it, takes him far longer to put it in the garage, drain the tank and put a tarpaulin over it.

So you reckon he's probably not up for a battle to the death against the DVLA's nominated champion?

 

[MickiQ]

So you reckon he's probably not up for a battle to the death against the DVLA's nominated champion?

My brother? Oh deffo, next time I see him I will ask him given a choice of filling in an online form or being beaten to pulp which would he choose. I am confident that he will say the first.

 

[Boo Radley75]

Can't decide if yet another basket case or taking the piss...

Magistrates decide on trial by combat

JOBLESS mechanic Leon Humphreys shocked magistrates by demanding the right to trial by combat under medieval law when he appeared at a Suffolk…

www.ipswichstar.co.uk

No deal. He has to do a Game of Thrones style walk of shame through his town, if he is insisting of medieval fantasy punishment.

 

[likesfish]

Fair enough, a 25 quid fine for not SORNing your motorbike is well worth fighting to the death over.

my anti terrorist training inculded the fact somebody sent multiple letterbombs to the dvla after getting a speeding ticket from average speed cameras! a slightly excessive response.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

my anti terrorist training inculded the fact somebody sent multiple letterbombs to the dvla after getting a speeding ticket from average speed cameras! a slightly excessive response.

the DVLA local offices had kit to x-ray the post - presume Swansea has as well

 

[likesfish]

anti terrorist training boiled down to
jihadists
with the far right trying to catch up
the Irish
animal rights and Eco activists ( several of their stunts involving national infrastructure has apprantly skirted the line of direct action protest, to using threats violence or dispution for political aims.) Which isn't really terrorism but if you get a Cobra meeting called about your protest it's not ending well for you

Then completely random people and random causes if any , use or threaten to use bombs etc and your neighbourhood dispute or issue you will find yourself looking at some very annoyed people who will be checking the shelves to see which books they can throw at you

 

[DaveCinzano]

Chelmsford coroner kidnap plot chumps convicted:

'Cult' members jailed over Chelmsford coroner kidnap plot

An "anti-establishment cult" entered a courtroom having conspired to kidnap a coroner.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Chelmsford coroner kidnap plot chumps convicted:

'Cult' members jailed over Chelmsford coroner kidnap plot

An "anti-establishment cult" entered a courtroom having conspired to kidnap a coroner.

www.bbc.co.uk

So bizarre. How can people actually be taken in by this garbage? Apparently people paid thousands of pounds for the cult leader's online course.

 

[elbows]

I learnt some new jargon as a result of that case:

The defendants were part of what law agencies called an "organised pseudolegal commercial arguments" (OPCA) group, usually defined as one that believes its interpretation of law supersedes a state's legal system.

 

[lazythursday]

I learnt some new jargon as a result of that case:

The OPCA jargon comes from a famous Canadian case, if I recall correctly, Meads vs Meads, which first properly documented the rise of this kind of freeman legal bullshit. The case judgement is a very entertaining read.

 

[PTK]

I half-heard about this on the radio, and I assumed that it had occurred in the USA. I know that there is an Essex county somewhere in that country, and the fact that they called themselves the “Federal Postal Court” seemed to confirm my conclusion. The use of the word “Federal” is very telling. This nonsense has clearly been influenced by people in the USA.

It seems that one of the effects of the pandemic was a growth in this kind of thing. It worries me that there seems to be an increase in the number of people detached from reality.

 

[DaveCinzano]

The OPCA jargon comes from a famous Canadian case, if I recall correctly, Meads vs Meads, which first properly documented the rise of this kind of freeman legal bullshit. The case judgement is a very entertaining read.

It is very unfortunate that any person would be so gullible as to believe that free money can be obtained by these theatrics, but nevertheless some, like Mr. Meads, appear unable to resist the temptation of wealth without obligation. One can only hope that in the future OPCA gurus will find A4V less attractive, and their risk-loving customers instead invest in alternative forms of speculation, such as lottery tickets, which provide infinitely better prospects for return.

 

[lazythursday]

I half-heard about this on the radio, and I assumed that it had occurred in the USA. I know that there is an Essex county somewhere in that country, and the fact that they called themselves the “Federal Postal Court” seemed to confirm my conclusion. The use of the word “Federal” is very telling. This nonsense has clearly been influenced by people in the USA.

It seems that one of the effects of the pandemic was a growth in this kind of thing. It worries me that there seems to be an increase in the number of people detached from reality.

This stuff all very much predates the pandemic though. If anything it seemed to disappear a bit during pandemic times as there was more high profile conspiracy bollocks about.

 

[PTK]

This stuff all very much predates the pandemic though. If anything it seemed to disappear a bit during pandemic times as there was more high profile conspiracy bollocks about.

I don't see much distinction between this "freeman" stuff and the anti-vaccination protests, at which there were people calling for medical staff to be executed. I saw video of some Covid conpiralooncs "serving a notice" on a hospital, which I think was also in Essex. The main person in these case was calling for the execution of the coroner.

 

[Poot]

I think this man has a lot to do with it (he cropped up during my FOTLER experience.)

:Mark-kishon: Christopher.

I'll take the rest of the day off. My work here is done.

Just ftr a lot of the 'paperwork' was very similar to the 'paperwork' that was served on me. I now realise I might actually have been in more danger than I realised at the time.

 

[Voley]

I'll take the rest of the day off. My work here is done.

Just ftr a lot of the 'paperwork' was very similar to the 'paperwork' that was served on me. I now realise I might actually have been in more danger than I realised at the time.

Ooh, fucking hell, Poot, that's scary.

 

[petee]

The OPCA jargon comes from a famous Canadian case, if I recall correctly, Meads vs Meads, which first properly documented the rise of this kind of freeman legal bullshit. The case judgement is a very entertaining read.

thx, i looked it up

MEADS v MEADS

jssbarristers.ca

from that link:

"At the Case Management Hearing, the Respondent proclaimed that, as a “child of God”, he was not subject to the Rule of Law and therefore not obligated to provide further support payments. The litany of fallacious arguments submitted by the Respondent at the Case Management represented a group Justice Rooke labeled as Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Litigants (“OPCALs”); individuals who employ techniques to disrupt Court operations and to attempt to frustrate the legal rights of governments, corporations, and individuals"

i sat on a jury about 8 years ago and the first words out of the defendant's mouth were, "i am a child of jehovah god" and i instantly thought "gulty." in the jury room we all said hello to each other, took a poll and it was 12-0. there was a moment of silence and then we decided to dither unril noon to get lunch, which was any sandwich we wanted so we stoked up. then we sent notice.

but i didn't know such language was part of a movement. it didn't work for that guy any better than it has for anyone else. (he was selling crack in a subway station.)

 

[two sheds]

(he was selling crack in a subway station.)

surprising that he was found guilty, I thought railway and subway stations fell under maritime law