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Sasaferrato said:
So graphene mimics benzine in structure, with a C6 ring?
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I don't know - organic chemistry makes my branes hurt :D
I deffo don't understand how you can really make a super-strong substance with graphite and Sellotape. :hmm:
Outside of antivax conspiracies it seems to be the latest rip-off crowd-funder thing - they were selling resistive electric heaters "using graphene technology" a while back...

Fun fact - still to be verified - a graphite mine in Cumbria was once key to British Military success due to its use to cast smoother cannonballs :)
 
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Sasaferrato said:
I would imagine that the ultra-right has the 'Christians', the atheists will go to the ultra-left.

Faux Christianity seems to be a cornerstone of right wing lunatics.
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Atheism seems to be pretty popular among right-wing libertarians, and I believe that noted skeptics such as Michael Shermer have professed right-libertarian beliefs.
 
gentlegreen said:
I actually bothered to read up a bit on graphene oxide a while back - there is Graphene oxide and REDUCED graphene oxide ... there are explorations relating to use as a biomedical substrate, but the notable application they mentioned is as a lightweight concrete reinforcer ...

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The key question though is... Would jet fuel melt graphene oxide reinforced concrete?
 
gentlegreen said:
So I replaced the redacted / polite mention in my profile and took the gloves off again..
She had tidied her profile up and I had thought she was genuinely looking for help - but our recent PMs where I focussed on gardening and salad and even potatoes in Peru - her ethnicity - always degenerated into " a shame you're vaxxed" (sic) and me blocking her again ... a shame as I had yet to get around to the resurgence in the Peruvian guano industry ...
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Oh look she noticed -

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Paltalk is a festering shithole ..
Only today in one of the better rooms, someone came out with "GMO Glyphosate (sic) kills water plants and starves fish of oxygen"

Knowing that glyphosate itself doesn't remain stable long enough to do that, I googled and was taken to a paper which claimed that the PHOSPHOROUS content of glyphosate was as significant as the phosphorus in fertilisers in terms of eutrophication of watercourses - which sounded a bit iffy to me - there's only one phosphorous atom in a fairly heavy organic molecule ...

So nothing to do with its herbicide properties at all ...

So I looked a bit deeper and found one report that it was a terrible paper contrived from iffy data that got basic maths wrong by orders of magnitude.
 
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Voley said:
Fucking hell gentlegreen - that's proper nuts. I would've run screaming from that level of lunacy a long time ago.
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I think I'm there to force me to fact-check and increase my knowledge - and spur me to do other things ...

I found my way back on during 2020 and especially into the US election and subsequent insanity - wanting to see it through American eyes (there are some people on there who aren't demented ...

Sometimes I reason that if there's only crap being talked about on PT, I might as well do it in French, but the small number of French rooms are really hopeless ...

I've been on the Internet for nearly 30 years and PalTalk is the only chat environment of its kind ...
 
apparently, we operate under Admiralty law so we cant give out parking fines because the Royal Navy cant oppress civilians.
Think somebody has a really weird reading of British History :D
unfortunately my manager said we cant solve are staff shortage by press-ganging people or getting people drunk and slipping them a parking warden shilling :D
 
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gentlegreen said:
Paltalk is a festering shithole ..
Only today in one of the better rooms, someone came out with "GMO Glyphosate (sic) kills water plants and starves fish of oxygen"

Knowing that glyphosate itself doesn't remain stable long enough to do that, I googled and was taken to a paper which claimed that the PHOSPHOROUS content of glyphosate was as significant as the phosphorus in fertilisers in terms of eutrophication of watercourses - which sounded a bit iffy to me - there's only one phosphorous atom in a fairly heavy organic molecule ...

So nothing to do with its herbicide properties at all ...

So I looked a bit deeper and found one report that it was a terrible paper contrived from iffy data that got basic maths wrong by orders of magnitude.
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I think there are some serious issues with glyphosate, but that's not really one of them. IIRC there seems to be growing links to it and certian types of lymphoma.
 
likesfish said:
apparently, we operate under Admiralty law so we cant give out parking fines because the Royal Navy cant oppress civilians.
Think somebody has a really weird reading of British History :D
unfortunately my manager said we cant solve are staff shortage by press-ganging people or getting people drunk and slipping them a parking warden shilling :D
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Just tell them that you're a petty officer, but due to cutbacks there's currently not enough ships, so they give you this gig to keep your sea legs from withering away.
 
nogojones said:
I think there are some serious issues with glyphosate, but that's not really one of them. IIRC there seems to be growing links to it and certian types of lymphoma.
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Not that I know of .
The discredited cancer "study" that's still widely cited was a despicable con and involved cruelty to lab rats.

en.wikipedia.org

Séralini affair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The most "popular" possible side effect is the notion that even minute ingested quantities interfere with gut flora - thence to "leakage" and thence to AUTISM !! - see also child vaccination and bleach enemas ...
 
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pogofish said:
It goes back further than that - Freeman shit has been going about for maybe as far as twenty years back. Although the near pathological self-obsession of the Trump/Q-era may well have refined it somewhat as well as greatly increasing their profile. Icke always seemed to be surfing along on whatever bollocks he thought might pay best to me.

Aspects of the "Sovereign Citizen" shit go back further - I can remember a certain type of "new society" hippy talking much the same guff back in the 1970s but most people with any sense just gave them a wide berth and left them to it.
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I think it goes in cycles. I remember running into these types at gun shows in the 80s. They tend to form and reform alliances depending on the fad conspiracy at the time. The ones I've run into recently were all into Grant Solar Minimum and Earth magnetic pole shift stuff, coupled with ideas that the government wants to decrease the population down to under a million world-wide. I try to avoid them, but they tend to like a girls who wear cammo.
 
gentlegreen said:
How the hell did we get here ?

Not that I know of .
The discredited cancer "study" that's still widely cited was a despicable con and involved cruelty to lab rats.

en.wikipedia.org

Séralini affair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The most "popular" possible side effect is the notion that even minute ingested quantities interfere with gut flora - thence to "leakage" and thence to AUTISM !! - see also child vaccination and bleach enemas ...
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It's not something I particularly follow as I haven't used glyphosate in years, but I recall a few meta analysis thingy's being conducted that showed a correlation. A very quick and lazy google pulled this up...

Exposure to Glyphosate-Based Herbicides and Risk for Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma: A Meta-Analysis and Supporting Evidence - PMC

Glyphosate is the most widely used broad-spectrum systemic herbicide in the world. Recent evaluations of the carcinogenic potential of glyphosate-based herbicides (GBHs) by various regional, national, and international agencies have engendered ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
gentlegreen said:
Not that I know of .
The discredited cancer "study" that's still widely cited was a despicable con and involved cruelty to lab rats.

en.wikipedia.org

Séralini affair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The most "popular" possible side effect is the notion that even minute ingested quantities interfere with gut flora - thence to "leakage" and thence to AUTISM !! - see also child vaccination and bleach enemas ...
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Ah leaky gut syndrome, that thing that was made up disgraced ex-doctor Andrew Wakefield in his long-discredited paper of fakery.
 
Serge Forward said:
On the subject of crank magnetism, I was rather taken with this musical delight. It's a bit long but the music is great, and the lyrics are spot on. It's a while though before it gets to the words, so bear with the lengthy musical intro.
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Cheers for posting that, I'm a big primus fan but hadn't come across that one

On a related note, Les Claypool is the best bassist of all time and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.
 
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